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Randy
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Message 1 of 2 (214478)
06-05-2005 10:20 AM


This has come up several times on theads on the Geology and Flood forum recently and couldn't find an old thread on it.
The question is, what was the source of sufficient water to cover the earth 15 cubits above the mountains and where did these water go after the flood?
The vapor canopy claims have been rejected even by "maintream" creationist organizations based on considerations of atmosphere physics. The only way there could be enough water in the atmosphere to create any significant depth of global rain is for temperatures and pressures to far exceed those that could sustain human life and of course there is no explanation for where that water went after it fell from the sky.
"Fountains of the deep" models also run into some severe heat problems and other problems. Catastrophic Plate Tectonics ala Baumgardner cooks the earth death as I show on post 96 of the Geomagnetism and Seafloor Spreading thread and Bill Birkland's post 97 on that thread shows that sedimentation patterns on the ocean floor and not consistent with CPT. The giant cyclonic currents that Baumgardner predicts would not produce the ordered fossil record or preserve trace fossils and would also be a little tough on a big wooden boat.
Walt Brown's hydroplate model brings water from 10 miles below the earth where it would be supercritical steam and not water. It would not have been possible to confine it before the flood and it would have cooked the earth to death after.
I have seen some YECs talk of a comet bringing the water. The problem with this is kinetic energy. Comets typically hit at about 50 km/sec and any large object striking earth from space will hit with a mininum velocity of 11 km/sec. A comet carrying enough water for a significant global flood would hit with an impact far exceeding anything that has hit the earth at least since the heavy lunar bombardment 3.8 billion years ago. It takes about 1.5x10^20 kg of water to cover the earth to a depth of 1000 feet. A comet moving at 50 km/sec with this much water would have a kinetic energy about 2 x 10^29 J. Such an impact would vaporize the oceans and heat the air to thousands of degrees. An air blast with a velocity of more than 3000 mph would circle the earth blowing a wooden boat apart with an overpressure of around 500 psi even if were on the other side of the earth from the impact site. Distributing the impact through a group of comets won't help much because the total energy still must be dissipated on the earth.
So if the flood really were global as YECs claim where did the water come from and where did it go?
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06-07-2005 9:10 AM


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