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Cedre
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Message 1 of 4 (496706)
01-30-2009 2:50 AM


Embarrassing chinks in the evolutionary armor
From its very foundation evolution bumps into some funny and downright embarrassing walls. The idea of a membranous droplet, the so called protobiont apparantly proto to all living matter, developing RNA devoid of a single organelle to assist the process is farfetched in its entirety. It is heretical and a waste of intelligence.

The above mentioned scenario has no foothold in reality, and it certainly has never occured in some distant past especially under the blind guidance of mother nature it would take only a miracle to be able to produce such a mind-bending result.

The above conclusion was reached as a result of the following evidence. For a protobiont to have existed in the oceans of early earth it first had to resist the abrasive conditions of early earth, especially the continued exposure to intense UV radiation, and inescapable encounters with aggressive free radicals such as superoxides.

Radicals are formed as a result of ionisation, they are majorly unstable and are known to attack chemical bonds, in living matter they ricochet wildly and damage cells, they especially devastate cell walls fiddle with RNA as well as enzymes. In the context of early earth which did not have a protective ozone shield radicals must have been as commomn as water vapor iteslf, as such protobionts constantly crossed paths with radicals and were annihilated, their rudimentary membranes stood no chance plus unlike many animals living today they lacked defensive mechansisms like SOD that counters the effects of superoxides.

In the face of such voilent conditions how in the world did this structures survive, if prolonged sunlight exposure is also harmful to the complex cells of eukaryotes with SOD's and in the presence of an ozone layer how then can we even begin to suggest that somehow the protobionts survived and even had the time to evolve RNA and other complex carbon compounds. If you ask me something doesn't add up here.

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Welcome
Hi Cedre,

Welcome to EvC. It seems you want to discuss the Origin of Life! It is a fascinating topic. Could you provide a source for the particular hypothesis you wish to discuss, and provide a little more detail about what you think it entails as well as the problems you have identified.

That way, others will be better informed as to the nature of your position so that they will be able to correctly debate with you without people talking at cross-purposes.

Further, your thread title is not very descriptive. Most topics in the origin of life forum are either arguments for or against the abiogenetic origin of life. Have a look at Forum Origin of Life to see some ideas. Or perhaps there is an already existing debate there that you can join in on to get a feel for how debate proceeds at this site.

I hope you will enjoy your stay.

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Cedre
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Re: Thankyou
Thankyou administrator for that heartfelt welcome, I certainly will heed your advice and look into those suggested links. The topic of life and how it stemmed is no doubt an issue that I'm particularly keen to delve into and hopefully your forums will provide me with the necessary platforms to do just that.I'm looking forward to be spoiled with tantalizing debates and thought-provoking discusions in your forums, hopefully when all's said and done I won't suffer disappointment.


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01-30-2009 8:39 AM


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