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TheNaturalist
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Message 1 of 7 (462600)
04-05-2008 6:21 PM


If god is all-powerful, is he constructed of smaller components or is he one component only?
If he is only one component, he couldnt be all-powerful since he couldnt have any intelligence; to have intelligence requires that one makes a distinction between appropriate things, which cant be done by a one-component thing.
String particles, for example(research "string particle") cannot be destroyed by anything in the universe; however, they dont have any intelligence.
Reasonably, can you construct using your imagination a body which is indivisible and is only one particle which can do anything except move through space and exist?
No, not reasonably; anything which is only one particle cannot by itself bend, change form, divide, or multiply; therefore, god must, having the capacity to do all these things, be composed of many entities. You must think of a concrete skematic for a system which does not follow these rules to prove otherwise. To convince anyone with any intelligence or sanity, that is.
I'll make another post about the above statement right after this one.
God, then, must be composed of many components. But if so, then why couldnt it be possible for god to be divided?
If a system is divided, it is discombobulated, and is no longer the same system. God, if he can be divided(being just a body composed of more than one part), therefore, can be modified or destroyed.
The only remaining arguement now is whether god, being such a system, can be discombobulated(which I posit he can).
If so, he cant be all-powerful
And anyways, god couldnt be all-powerful if he could destroy himself. Can he? If not, he lacks power. That paradox must also be answered.
Edited by TheNaturalist, : No reason given.

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Message 2 of 7 (462610)
04-05-2008 8:46 PM
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04-05-2008 6:21 PM


I'm sorry, this is too discombobulated for me to even make a suggestion how to improve it. Perhaps another moderator can provide more constructive feedback.

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Message 3 of 7 (462643)
04-06-2008 1:14 PM
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04-05-2008 8:46 PM


Basically what I'm saying is that "God" (like everything concievable) must be either 1. one body (like a string particle, which has no simpler parts) OR 2. more than one body (like everything other, in our universe, than string particles).
If something is only one body and has no simpler parts (like a string particle), then all it can do is 1. exist and 2. move through space. It has no power to bend, divide, multiply, change in size, or have intelligence.
However, "God" claims to be able to do everything it wants, including the above, therefore.
So, "God" must be comprised of more than one body; "God" must be made up of more than one PART.
But if this is so, then "God" should be divisible, under the right conditions. Unless one wants to challenge this idea..
And the last part of it was, that "God" couldnt be all-powerful if he could destroy himself. Can he? If not, he lacks power. That paradox must also be answered.
Edited by TheNaturalist, : go die please

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Message 4 of 7 (462646)
04-06-2008 2:48 PM
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04-06-2008 1:14 PM


About that topic title - It stinks big time
They don't get much worse that "A question".
Let's see you define your topic theme into one brief sentence, posted as the topic title. You can change the title via editing message 1.
First you need a proper topic title - Then we can go on to try to make sense of your messages.
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Message 5 of 7 (463070)
04-11-2008 8:35 PM
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04-06-2008 2:48 PM


Re: About that topic title - It stinks big time
Ive replaced it

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Message 6 of 7 (464601)
04-27-2008 2:56 PM
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04-06-2008 2:48 PM


^Bump^
This one appears to have gotten lost in the shuffle.

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Message 7 of 7 (464917)
04-30-2008 11:12 PM
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04-06-2008 1:14 PM


Not rejected, but I think needs another try at a rewrite
I just can't see promoting this as presented so far.
I suspect this is doomed for rejection, but perhaps you could try again to write an opening message. Write it as a new message in this topic. If approved, that new message can become the message 1 of the new topic.
Input from other admins certainly welcome.
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