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CK Member (Idle past 4154 days) Posts: 3221 Joined: |
While researching the work of Ron Wyatt, I happened to come across a claim that he found the blood of Jesus - a conclusion that he came to after having it tested and finding out that it only had 24 chromosomes.
Now the Exodus topic became derailed because it became too diffused - in this thread, I think that the key issue is clearly the blood work. Therefore, can anyone explain: a) The significance of 24 chromosomes. b) The lab that performed those tests and the procedures that performed. This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 08-14-2004 10:06 AM
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
I don't know about (b), but the answer to (a) is Jesus must have been an ape or a monkey.
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lfen Member (Idle past 4704 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Monkeys have 24 chromosomes? That's funny!
It sounds to me like he had the idea that parthogenesis involves just one set of chromosones. Would someone with a background in genetics offer an explanation here. I would have thought the females chromosomes absent a set from a sperm would duplicate themselves, but I've no idea if that is right. I also have to assume he found some white cells to examine. Red blood cells have no nucleus, and hence no chromosomes? Is that right. My biology is so hazy at this point. The more I hear about Wyatt the less credible he becomes. The guy was sure a prolific bs'er, I'm rather in awe of him. lfen
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
Hahaha. Ok, I was stretching it. 24 pairs of chromosomes = all primates except humans.
lfen writes:
Huh? Could you rephrase that? I would have thought the females chromosomes absent a set from a sperm would duplicate themselves, but I've no idea if that is right. The Laminator For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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lfen Member (Idle past 4704 days) Posts: 2189 From: Oregon Joined: |
Well, humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes for a total of 46 individual chromosomes. 23 from the male and 23 from the female, sperm and egg. So I thought maybe Wyatt was saying in support of the blood coming from someone claimed to be an offspring by parthenogenesis that having never received chromosomes from a father's sperm they would have half the number of chromosomes as most people. Counting chromosomes and not pairs that would be 46, but where the number 24 came from I don't know, I guess a y chromosome was the miraculous contribution of the Holy Spirit since parthenogensis would I expect yield a female offspring. This whole thing is nutty!
This whole theorizing is like, if we had bacon we could have bacon and eggs if we had eggs. I've no idea what Wyatt was talking about this was just a guess. lfen edited because I think I didn't answer the question you asked. I don't know how parthenogenesis works in species that actually reproduce that way. I was wondering if the female egg would have paired chromosomes or single examples. My biology is so old. It has to do with meiosis vs metosis but my head is starting to hurt dredging up this information. This message has been edited by lfen, 08-14-2004 08:03 PM
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5221 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
Ifen,
If he had 24 chromosomes, & was from a female, then he should have been female too. xx=female. And we are assuming that every gene functioned perfectly. You can be X & survive, or XX, but Y , or YY is a no-no, you must have one X chromosome. Either that, or Mary had a beard & balls you could crack bricks with. Mark
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
It doesn't matter. Mary was supposedly a female human.
A person that only has 24 chromosomes (and I am agreeing with you that that's what Wyatt was thinking about when he fabricated the DNA sample... 23 chromosomes from Mary's egg and a Y chromosome from god) would be scientifically impossible. By the way, anyone know what happenned to Wyatt's blood sample? If it was a human blood sample and it only had 24 chromosomes, I'm sure it would have been all over the news. The Laminator For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
Where the hell are all the pro wyatt people?
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Coragyps Member (Idle past 761 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: |
Well, DUH! You should know that answer! The "H" in the exclamation "Jesus H. Christ" stands for "Haploid!"
(but I don't get the 24 instead of 23 thing.......)
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
Coragyps writes:
I'm guessing that 23 chromosomes came from Mary and god gave the egg a Y chromosome. Well, DUH! You should know that answer! The "H" in the exclamation "Jesus H. Christ" stands for "Haploid!"(but I don't get the 24 instead of 23 thing.......) The Laminator For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!
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Amlodhi Inactive Member |
quote: Actually, if the account of Wyatt's claim I read was accurate, it (the blood) should be all over everywhere. Since the article I read claimed that the scientists were "overcome" when they saw that the blood cells were still dividing.
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coffee_addict Member (Idle past 503 days) Posts: 3645 From: Indianapolis, IN Joined: |
Could you tell me more about this? Where did he get the blood sample? Which blood cells were still dividing? What the hell happened to the blood sample?
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Asgara Member (Idle past 2329 days) Posts: 1783 From: Wisconsin, USA Joined: |
The blood supposedly came from the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant that Wyatt claims to have found underneath the crucifixion site. Allegedly, the quake at the time of death opened up a crack at the base of the cross and the blood dripped down.
Asgara "Embrace the pain, spank your inner moppet, whatever....but get over it" http://asgarasworld.bravepages.comhttp://perditionsgate.bravepages.com
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Amlodhi Inactive Member |
Hi Lam, a.k.a. Darth Mal,
I reviewed the article. Apparently the blood cells had to be placed in a growth medium before they began dividing.
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