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Author Topic:   religion vs science
Leon Albert
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07-21-2003 11:43 AM


Endo,
I'm arguing that Creationism it too complex to fall into a simple category of man's science. Creationism is everything, not simply science.
Circular argument. You have to accept the premise in order to accept the conclusion. You have no way of testing, & potentially falsifying (that you would accept) creations claims, "creationism is everything" is therefore a hollow, premature claim. Not only is creationism not science, but it's not logical, either, it seems.
How is creationism "too complex" for science? There are many, many aspects of science that leave creationism standing in kindegarten with it's zipper hanging open on the complexity front. What a strange thing to say! In fact, creationism is very, VERY easy. God did it. It is this simplistic appeal that attracts people.
This leads me onto my main point. Assuming we are going to ascribe the same standards of logic to both science & creationism, & your assumption sans evidence aside. How do we determine what makes our world tick? Obviously just assuming we have the truth, often in the face of contradictory evidence, let alone none at all like creationism does is insufficient.
But I'm getting ahead of myself, you need address message 16 before we can continue. We need to agree our premises; what science actually is.
Mark
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Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
Indeed, Endo's "logic" is entirely different from that of science. The "logic" of creationism is grounded in an anthropomorphism-anthropocentrism that has long been abandoned in science, but which remains at the core of all religions. This is so because the primary function of religions, beyond their social functions, is to satisfy a host of emotional needs in the believer. This is done via the super-anthropomorphic entities with which they are filled. In sharp contrast, science is concerned solely with satisfying the need to explain.
Leon
{Comment from Adminnemooseus - This message seems to be a reply to a message in another topic. Leon must have hit the "new topic" button, when he meant the "reply button". Also, it appears that much of the above (between the quote box and the last paragraph) is a quotation of mark24.}
[This message has been edited by Adminnemooseus, 08-12-2003]

  
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