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Author Topic:   June 2007 - Post of the Month
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Message 1 of 27 (403172)
06-01-2007 8:01 AM


Find a post that is too good to be missed, make your June, 2007 POTM nominations here.

Subtitle should include the author's name and topic/thread title.

Message Format

Author: Author's Name
Forum: Forum where posted
Thread: Thread title
Message #: Number and Link to the nominated message

Nominations should include a link to the nominated article, and a short comment on why the message deserves nomination.

As always, this is not a thread for debates.
Posts should be limited to nomination, seconds, and acceptance statements by nominee.


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Message 2 of 27 (403233)
06-01-2007 12:52 PM
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06-01-2007 8:01 AM


dwise1 in Evolution and Complexity
Author: dwise1
Forum: Biological Evolution
Thread: Evolution and Complexity
Message: 15

A concise and descriptive explanation of how selective pressures can either lead to more change or lead to more stasis, depending.

Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fixed link. It had been "m=18#15". This gets you to the page with message 18, and then jumps to message 15. Problem: Message 18 and 15 may not be on the same page for some people (including me). Therefore I changed the link to "m=15#15", which will work for everyone. In other words, it is best that those two numbers are always the same.


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Message 3 of 27 (403425)
06-02-2007 4:07 PM
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06-01-2007 12:52 PM


Re: dwise1 in Evolution and Complexity
second.

I also listed Crash on Message 17 for the same thread.


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Message 4 of 27 (403435)
06-02-2007 6:12 PM
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06-01-2007 12:52 PM


Re: dwise1 in Evolution and Complexity
A second on dwise1.

Clear explanation, accurate and to the point. Extra credit for easy of read.


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Message 5 of 27 (404349)
06-08-2007 7:51 AM


Chiroptera in God's existence cannot be proven logically!
Message 25

too funny. Maybe POTML ?

Edited by Admin, : Fix link.

Edited by AdminPD, : Fix Title


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Message 6 of 27 (404408)
06-08-2007 5:53 PM


Jar - Guantanamo thread
Guantanamo House of Cards ...

I enjoyed the debate and thought all jars points were valid.


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Message 7 of 27 (404410)
06-08-2007 6:25 PM
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06-08-2007 5:53 PM


Re: Jar - Guantanamo thread
It was an enjoyable thread. Too bad the folk being disappeared don't get to participate.


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Message 8 of 27 (404784)
06-09-2007 6:37 PM


RAZD at "reationism museum opens in Alberta"
RAZD
Creationism museum opens in Alberta
Message 95

In it's entirety:

Presumably you give equal recommendations for UFO museums?
http://www.roswellufomuseum.com/

the bigfoot museum?
http://www.bigfootmuseum.com/

Museums for lake monsters?
http://www.worldhop.com/Journals/J11/PAGES/Magic.html
http://sunnyokanagan.com/ogopogo/

and anything else that fits the faith category of knowledge... with no critical review for any actual facts.

Summarizes why creationism museums is a bad thing for creationism.

Do not debate the topic in this topic. Got to that topic. Then you will be the correct topic.

Moose

Edited by Minnemooseus, : Fix stuff.

Edited by Minnemooseus, : That "Preview" just isn't working for me.


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Message 9 of 27 (405165)
06-11-2007 6:09 PM
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06-01-2007 8:01 AM


taylor 31
Message 1

It's honest and brave.


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Message 10 of 27 (405188)
06-11-2007 8:41 PM
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06-11-2007 6:09 PM


Taylor
second
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Message 11 of 27 (405478)
06-13-2007 5:04 AM


Modulous in Creation Museum Opens in Alberta
Message 289

Since before I have been a member of this forum I have been troubled by the idea that religious fanaticism uses a false understanding and apparently purposeful misrepresentation of actual science in order to attack science. I think Modulous exposes the hypocritical use of such pseudoscience in a manner that I agree with and think is much better than I have been able to muster. So kudos to Modulous for expressing this central refutation of anti-science dogma in such a well reasoned manner.

This sums it up for me:

modulous writes:

But why bother? It isn't necessary. Non-scientists using science sounding stuff to try and show that scientists have got science wrong??? Why not just say 'We don't accept the conclusions reached by natural science?' - trying to show that those conclusions are invalid within the framework of science by ignoring the majority of the physical evidence is not explaining how they feel that science is wrong - it is trying to convince others to distrust the authority that is science in favour of the authority that is them.

Choose a knowledge gaining method and stick with it. Don't try and use a little bit of naturalistic methodology as it suits one (ie when the conclusions can be made to sound like they agree with one's supernatural myth of choice) since that is sloppy thinking and learning. When they do it knowing they are ignoring important evidence, that they are providing inconsistent thinking styles, and teaching misleading information...we should not be celebrating.

One thing that confused me was that you said you disagreed with flood geology - but then you say that if it brainwashes wins hearts and minds then you celebrate it. Personally I find that reprehensible and hope to convince you eventually that this is so. If they want to spread that they believe the earth is only 6,000 years old then so be it - that's their belief. They shouldn't hijack the trust in scientific authority to gain a footing in the cultural battle unless they believe there is a NEED for underhand tactics.

Perhaps there is a need for these tactics - but it doesn't stop them from being intellectually lazy, dishonest and intellectually dangerous.

Edited by anglagard, : eek! replaces expresses with exposes


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Message 12 of 27 (405501)
06-13-2007 8:50 AM
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06-13-2007 5:04 AM


Re: Modulous in Creation Museum Opens in Alberta
I thought Modulous' post #272 was pretty good, too.
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Message 13 of 27 (405584)
06-13-2007 7:57 PM
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06-13-2007 5:04 AM


Re: Modulous in Creation Museum Opens in Alberta
Also Modulous message 296 at the same topic.

Modulous gets a threesome.

Moose


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Message 14 of 27 (405586)
06-13-2007 8:12 PM


RASD covers it
Message 84

RASD does a careful and complete and reasoned job of answering dendochronology issues.

If there are flaws there are:

1) It is a lot to absorb. I doubt that the doubters want to actually learn so much. :)

2) The site referred to on the issue of false rings doesn't describe in as much detail as I would like. I not that the ring which almost touches the left lower corner and slopes to middle upper edge meets the description for a false ring but I think the only remaining thing would be to show other examples and point some out.

(ooops I think I posted a dup of this in the wrong place :( )


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Message 15 of 27 (405591)
06-13-2007 9:16 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by NosyNed
06-13-2007 8:12 PM


Re: RASD covers it
Thanks. It is a lot, but it is necessary to show the depth of deception on the part of Don Batten and the bankruptcy of truth in his article.


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