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Incontrovertible
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Message 1 of 306 (95326)
03-28-2004 5:08 AM


Humanity's biggest flaw is it's lingering belief that a greater being or god created life itself. Seriously it's starting to get to me. The myth of a god started to be taken very seriously in around 200.bc. At this time, our ancestors started to ponder our very existence. A talented bunch of individuals now decided (in order to keep the population from going insane) to create a mother belief, or something everybody could follow. So they stole the Angels the Demons etc etc.. From mostly middle-eastern mythology, they developed a holy book, and over time corrected its flaws modified and of course added their own horribley bad version of what happened. It is now the year 2004, we have proof of our surroundings, we have proof that we are, yes, very anonymous and pretty pathetic compared to the scale of things. By now i would think people to have seriously dropped this dated and unrealistic idea. Sadly some people are still convinced that god truly does exist. Probably because they look at the great churches and vast imaginative history and think "how could something with so many things in its honor be fake? However true believers are scarce among us Y Generation. I was talking to my "Christian" friend the other day about creation and how he can truly believe in god. When he try's to argue god's existence you can tell by a multitude of things he knows the whole idea of god is impossible. I’ve argued religion with many people in the past and the conversation usually ends with them either running away, saying "well I’ll laugh when your burning in hell" or "well shut up, because that’s what i believe (translation: im a dumbass)" I think what we need to accept is that its simply not real. Anyway back to my story, these people succeed in creating and spreading this new religion. They make a huge profit and hey? Why not use it to justify a few wars (i.e.: crusades)? So, i predict (hopefully) beleifs that have consumed and do consume so much money, beleifs that have and do kill so many people will in the next 100 years be taken alot less seriously. Trust me with 1000 years on my hands, i could have written something just as convincing as the bible. I apologise for any errors in spelling, im very pressed for time.

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Brian
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Message 2 of 306 (95330)
03-28-2004 5:38 AM
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03-28-2004 5:08 AM


Hi,
The myth of a god started to be taken very seriously in around 200.bc.
Have you actually studied this subject at all?
Who were Hindus worshipping for thousands of year before this date?
How do you explain Yawhism ?
What about the Egyptians?
Surely you are not seriously saying that belief in god only began in 200 BCE?
If you are going to be a bigot, at least be an educated bigot.
Trust me with 1000 years on my hands, i could have written something just as convincing as the bible.
What do you find convincing about the Bible?
Finally, why do you limit it to the Christians as being morons? Why don't you inlcude, Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, or Jews? Their beliefs have many similarites.
Brian.

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Message 3 of 306 (95331)
03-28-2004 5:39 AM


Thread moved here from the The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy forum.
I don't expect this topic to last too long, but because the topic title is worded to provoke a reaction, the FFA is where it belongs.
AdminBrian
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Message 4 of 306 (95333)
03-28-2004 5:51 AM
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Brian, your trying to be smart. The date was a very very rough estimation, i dont only mean christians, im biast, im using them as an example. Im sure you know this already.

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Brian
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Message 5 of 306 (95335)
03-28-2004 6:04 AM
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03-28-2004 5:51 AM


How do you explain the fact that there are an extremely large amount of Christians who have very impressive educational backgrounds?
Are they only morons when it comes to their faith?
I studied with John Drane for two years, he is a very famous Christian scholar, and although I diagreed with much that he said, he could never be decribed as a moron, quite the opposite in fact.
Brian.

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Message 6 of 306 (95337)
03-28-2004 6:07 AM
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03-28-2004 6:04 AM


Your referring to a different form of intelligence, i think we both have different meanings for the word moron. As long as you understand what i meant im happy.

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DC85
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Message 7 of 306 (95351)
03-28-2004 10:27 AM


although we are small the Population of Athiest/Agnostics are growing.... One day we may almost have no religons in this world.. I don't mean anytime soon but the way I see it... It should happen.
I think if we elimanate these small things we can do great as a race and advance much further.

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Message 8 of 306 (95358)
03-28-2004 11:59 AM
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03-28-2004 10:27 AM


quote:
although we are small the Population of Athiest/Agnostics are growing.... One day we may almost have no religons in this world.. I don't mean anytime soon but the way I see it... It should happen.
I think if we elimanate these small things we can do great as a race and advance much further.
Advancement will be reached with less of the world's trivial matters, Yes. But calling someone's faith trivial compels me to disagree.
I see some hold the view of, Religion holds back the advancement of science, etc... I think quite the opposite. The Bible as I see it portrays for us how to live, now of course there are exceptions, but from the aspects in the Bible that show kindness, humility, love, etc, there are valuable lessons that should be acknowledged.
For "The Advancement of mankind" to happen I would think that all elements hate would have to be eliminated.
Living by the standards set in the Bible, mankind would absolutely abolish these elements of hate. Or at least decrease them.
Of course this is not going to happen, but if DC85 is right about "religion's" death, (that I doubt), the world will not advance at the level of which it would if Life's hate was erased.
Another thread would be a good idea if this discussion is to proceed.

The earth is flat.

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Chiroptera
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Message 9 of 306 (95359)
03-28-2004 12:02 PM
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03-28-2004 6:07 AM


quote:
i think we both have different meanings for the word moron.
And is your definition of moron someone who disagrees with you?
[This message has been edited by Chiroptera, 03-28-2004]

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Percy
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Message 10 of 306 (95392)
03-28-2004 1:41 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Incontrovertible
03-28-2004 5:51 AM


Insatiable Ignorance
Incontrovertible writes:
The myth of a god started to be taken very seriously in around 200.bc.
Brian writes:
Have you actually studied this subject at all?
Incontrovertible writes:
The date was a very very rough estimation...
The date was wrong and exhibited a startling ignorance of history. Even more, anthropologists believe there have been gods as long as there have been men, which would make your date wrong by at least some tens of thousands of years, or hundreds or percent. I would extend Brian's question and ask if you've studied anything at all, not just the origins of faith.
I hope ignorance like this is higher on God's list for elimination than Christianity.
--Percy

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shyangel
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Message 11 of 306 (95497)
03-28-2004 10:04 PM


Quote: although we are small the Population of Athiest/Agnostics are growing.... One day we may almost have no religons in this world.. I don't mean anytime soon but the way I see it... It should happen.
I think if we elimanate these small things we can do great as a race and advance much further.
Christianity will never dissapear as many would like because there are too many people with faith in this world.
If we eliminated religion, the world would be worse than it it now, and the world is a hateful place already. Also, as a race ...humankind will never advance without God but will instead only get worse.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 12 of 306 (95522)
03-29-2004 12:31 AM
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03-28-2004 10:04 PM


If we eliminated religion, the world would be worse than it it now, and the world is a hateful place already. Also, as a race ...humankind will never advance without God but will instead only get worse.
What makes you think this? Why do you think that a Atheistic world would be hateful?

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shyangel
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Message 13 of 306 (95535)
03-29-2004 2:02 AM


I said the world already was a hateful place, and I think that is pretty easy to see if you watch the news.
If there were no Christians in the world, it would for sure still be livable but without Christians, there would be no one to help others find God and that's why I said we would be worse off.
I beleve the world would be a very sad place without any faith, something that Christians have a lot of.

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Rand Al'Thor
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Message 14 of 306 (95539)
03-29-2004 2:19 AM
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03-29-2004 2:02 AM


I beleve the world would be a very sad place without any faith, something that Christians have a lot of.
And what Muslims don't have alot of faith?
What does finding god got to do with hate? Are you suggesting that inorder to be loving and peaceful you need to be a christian or do you just need to believe in god?

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 15 of 306 (98238)
04-06-2004 9:14 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Incontrovertible
03-28-2004 6:07 AM


It's Marsupial poachin' time!
"Your referring to a different form of intelligence"
Obviously the one that you don't have? Granted that would be all of them, but...
"i think we both have different meanings for the word moron"
This is my definition:
moron= guy who attacks religion he likely knows nothing about and has a marsupial with gi-GANTIC cohones for an avatar. That gonna compensate for the lack of brain cells you put into this thread?
Do we have different meanings for the phrase "You're a freakin' idiot and you're giving me opportunities to insult stupid people "
?
"As long as you understand what i meant im happy. "
As long as you understand that I'm going to enjoy making your life a living hell as long as you post in this thread, I'm happy. Really, I am.

Wanna feel God? Step onto the wrestling mat and you'd be crazy to deny the uplifting spirit.

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