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Author Topic:   Can someone explain Archeopteryx to me?
joshua221 
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Message 1 of 11 (65637)
11-10-2003 6:43 PM


I am wondering about the fossil of Archeopaetrax, anyone know anything about it, if it is real or whatever?
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Loudmouth
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Message 2 of 11 (65641)
11-10-2003 6:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
11-10-2003 6:43 PM


It's thought to be an example of a transitional fossil between reptiles and birds. It has characteristics of both reptiles and birds, including teeth and feathers. For a more detailed info you could go the the talkorigins.org Archaeopteryx site here.
Also, some have claimed that it's a forgery and this is discussed here.
If you need help with any of the terminology or anything else, let us know. Our bark is always louder than our bite.

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Zhimbo
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Message 3 of 11 (65729)
11-10-2003 10:07 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by joshua221
11-10-2003 6:43 PM


I'd like to point out subtle mistake you make in your question: you refer to "the fossil". Actually there are several known fossil specimens of archeopteryx. Interestingly, the original finds were classified as dinosaurs. When later finds that were more finely preserved showed imprints of feathers, it was classified as a bird and only later did anyone realize that the earlier fossils, in coarser sediment that did not preserved feather imprints, were the same organism.
So it's very weird to me that today's creationists (at least the ones who aren't fringe enough to declare it a hoax) insist that Archie is "100% bird".

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joshua221 
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Message 4 of 11 (68144)
11-20-2003 8:30 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Loudmouth
11-10-2003 6:51 PM


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Atapuercan Zusayan 
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Message 5 of 11 (70105)
11-30-2003 5:14 PM


yep, its a bird.
The wicked philosohpers of Darwinism gave it a strange name which makes a change to raven or robin but is rather unweildy.
And it is older than the lizards Darwinists pretend it evolved from.
So its name could be translated as "I am even older than my grandpa who could have been a horse or something".
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Loudmouth
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Message 6 of 11 (70267)
12-01-2003 11:52 AM
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11-30-2003 5:14 PM


yep, its a bird.
The wicked philosohpers of Darwinism gave it a strange name which makes a change to raven or robin but is rather unweildy.
Like they usually do, taxonomists named the fossil using greek root terms. Arch- is greek for ancient or old, and ptera for wing. Therfore, if you understand the use of latin and greek root words, Archeopteryx means ancient wing. Makes sense to me.
And it is older than the lizards Darwinists pretend it evolved from.So its name could be translated as "I am even older than my grandpa who could have been a horse or something".
Do you have anthing to back this up, like a website that references dating of the fossils. Specifics would be nice instead of unsupported assertions.

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mark24
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Message 7 of 11 (70271)
12-01-2003 12:08 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by Atapuercan Zusayan
11-30-2003 5:14 PM


Why is it a bird rather than a therapod?
Mark

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zephyr
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Message 8 of 11 (70272)
12-01-2003 12:10 PM
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11-30-2003 5:14 PM


quote:
yep, its a bird.
The wicked philosohpers of Darwinism gave it a strange name which makes a change to raven or robin but is rather unweildy.
And it is older than the lizards Darwinists pretend it evolved from.
So its name could be translated as "I am even older than my grandpa who could have been a horse or something".
All right, I'm calling troll on this one.
A.Z.,
Either you're baiting us or you're out of your mind. Which one is it?

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M82A1
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Message 9 of 11 (72289)
12-11-2003 12:10 PM


Damn, you guys beat me too it...
Pic of Archeopteryx:
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gene90
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Message 10 of 11 (72294)
12-11-2003 1:09 PM
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12-01-2003 12:10 PM


Uggh, I hate toothed birds...

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gene90
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Message 11 of 11 (72295)
12-11-2003 1:10 PM
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12-01-2003 12:10 PM


Uggh, I hate toothed birds...

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