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Author Topic:   Is religion created by God?
Syamsu 
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Message 1 of 4 (32241)
02-14-2003 11:53 AM


I'm wondering if religion should fundamentally be viewed samelike as the rest of Creation, the animals, and plants, the stars and planets, and people, or if it should be viewed as separate from the rest of Creation.
If I view it as separate, then religion tends to become like a god unto itself, infallible standing above all Nature, an "extension" of God.
If I view it as part of Creation, then it becomes more like a sort of natural being. In some anthropology documentary I saw about people living in a rainforest, I had a very clear sense of their religion as a separate (and wonderful) being from the people believing it. The religion having a worth to itself so to speak, similar to when God tells about creating planets for instance, and seeing the planets as "good".
edited to add: no stoopid replies please
regards,
Mohammad Nor Syamsu
[This message has been edited by Syamsu, 02-16-2003]

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Gzus
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Message 2 of 4 (32360)
02-16-2003 9:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Syamsu
02-14-2003 11:53 AM


What's wrong with the 'bored bunch of scribes in mud huts' analogy?
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Peter
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Message 3 of 4 (33013)
02-24-2003 4:04 AM
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02-14-2003 11:53 AM


If I understand correctly you are suggesting that
'religion' is created by god?
Which religion do you mean?
If religion is a belief in one or other god, then the
belief that it is created by god is circular reasoning.
Other than that it's a matter of world-view.

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Justaman
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Message 4 of 4 (34193)
03-12-2003 9:50 AM
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02-14-2003 11:53 AM


Syamsu:
My own feeling is that "religion" or formalized belif structures arise naturally in our minds because of our need for order. Pattern recognition is fundamental to our intelligence and it can either be the master or slave of our thoughts. The development of scientific methodology is the story of our attempt to make pattern recognition the slave of our thoughts.
The history of pattern recognition as master of our thoughts, I believe, encompasses much of what we call religion, or belief.
As another metaphor I offer: pattern is both the circuitry and the signal of our functioning brains.
Justaman

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