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funkmasterfreaky Inactive Member |
As i have started to look through some of the topics and conversations going on i am saddened greatly by the way i see God's word talked about. I am curious to know what makes so many of you so strongly believe the bible to be a fairytale, not to be believed?
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Karl Inactive Member |
You make an interesting leap here.
For example, I don't consider Genesis 1-11 to be literal history. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a fairy tale, and I certainly don't hate God! Others here would call it a fairy tale, but still don't hate God. They might not believe He exists, they might be ambivalent. A few might hate God, but I've not heard any of them say it as far as I can recall. Care to clarify who you mean? Who you think hates God, and why?
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Some one said, I wish I could remember who, that if you show me why you do not believe in foreign gods, I will show you why I do not believe in yours. ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Primordial Egg Inactive Member |
I think it was more like "If you can understand why you don't believe in two gods, you'll understand why I don't believe in one. we are both athiests - I just believe in one less God than you"
...or words to that effect
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Funk, There's a HUGE difference between believing the bible to be a book of fairy tales & HATING god, wouldn't you say? How is it possible to hate something you don't accept exists? Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Right, that's the one. Any idea who it was? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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Chara Inactive Member |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Karl:
[B]You make an interesting leap here. For example, I don't consider Genesis 1-11 to be literal history. I wouldn't go so far as to call it a fairy tale, and I certainly don't hate God!************************************* If you don't call this passage of Scripture a fairy tale, or literal history, what is your view?
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funkmasterfreaky Inactive Member |
I don't mean this in a pompous way, but have you read the new testament? Unfortunately mans words are not the way to prove that God exists only God can prove that he exists. Usually he will speak through his word which is the Bible. Otherwise he speaks through the lives of those who serve him. I believe God is almighty therefore i don't feel i have to defend his existence for him. He is quite capable of doing that himself. I know he's real because he comforts me in hard time, when i pray he answers, he speaks to me through his written word, and he has drastically changed my life. Unfortunately how do i prove that to you? God states over and over through the bible that he is the only God. Which is why i do not believe in foreign gods. Again unfortunately if you don't believe the bible is the word of God it's hard to prove. I wish i could do like Elijah and have a contest like they did in 1kings unfortunately i am not to test my God. Maybe try reading the story of elijah. God told Elijah to tell Ahab it wouldn't rain in that region until Elijah said it would and left for 3 years .. maybe read then from 1 kings 18. the whole chapter. There is a place where God has proven to his people that he is the one and only God. I will think some more on this. Maybe the Lord can show me how to convince you as he used Elijah to convince Isreal.
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Chara Inactive Member |
Funk,
There's a HUGE difference between believing the bible to be a book of fairy tales & HATING god, wouldn't you say? How is it possible to hate something you don't accept exists? Mark [/B][/QUOTE] Mark,A hypothetical question if I may: If I chose to believe that you do not exist, even though I was your child, what would be your response? [This message has been edited by Chara, 11-08-2002]
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Mister Pamboli Member (Idle past 7577 days) Posts: 634 From: Washington, USA Joined: |
quote: I would punish you with "everlasting punishment", "in flaming fire taking vengeance" for your unbelief. Seems only fair, to me. Damned ungrateful kids!
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John Inactive Member |
quote: Yes. Several times.
quote: Now that we've got that straight, you won't be appealing to the Bible anymore.
quote: Yes, you are correct. Were God an actual being he could certainly prove his existence to us, yet he hasn't.
quote: The Bible was written by men. I thought that man's words were not the way to prove the existence of God? If you have some evidence that men did not write the Bible please present it.
quote: Wow.... scary.... Have you read the Old Testament?
[quote]I believe God is almighty therefore i don't feel i have to defend his existence for him.[/b][/quote] Yet here you are. Why?
quote: But thus far hasn't.
quote: How do you respond to those who claim such comfort and guidance from other gods? If the argument works for you, it also works for all those other gods, and you can't all be right. Your proposition is therefore self contradictory and logically invalid.
quote: Prove that you feel comforted and that you feel that God talks to you? I believe that part, but it isn't an arguent for the existence of God.
quote: Here we go again appealing to man's words.
quote: Consider: If I wrote a book and in it claimed that the book was REALLY written by God, would you accept it as such? Nope, not a chance. But you do not apply the same rationality to the Bible. Do you accept the Koran? The Book of Mormon? Doubtful... yet both of these books claim divine inspiration.
quote: And if you do believe the bible is the word of God it isn't proof. It is an assuption. Any use of that assumption in subsequent arguments constitutes circular reasoning and is invalid.
quote: Terribly convenient isn't it?
quote: Its a story. It is a fable. Do you believe everything you read? ------------------http://www.hells-handmaiden.com
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5195 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: Chara, I would be pretty safe from questioning social workers, wouldn't I? When it came to explaining your bruises. Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with. [This message has been edited by mark24, 11-08-2002]
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Chara Inactive Member |
quote: Forgive me, but I do not understand your response. Can you please explain what you meant?
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funkmasterfreaky Inactive Member |
for 1 yes the bible is written by men. dictated by God. no i do not believe everything i read i only believe the Word of God. yes i have read the old testament. i love the old testament. what about it don't you like?
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funkmasterfreaky Inactive Member |
Occam's razor i get a kick out of that. from what i know of that it means the simplest answer tends to be correct. so it doesn't get anymore simple than all the answers in one book. creation written simply in a handful of sentences. existance explained! simplest answer
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