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Pringlesguy7
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Message 1 of 6 (60220)
10-09-2003 2:28 AM


I am currently take a class in OT, and I have never before noticed this verse before Genesis 1:26 "Then God said, "let us in our image, in ou rlikeness, and let them rule over the...." It has just kind of struck me as to who the "we" and "our" are. I am not a skeptic, and yes, I have read my Bible commentary on it, and it doesnt reall say that the we could refer to the angels and heavenly hosts.( I'm just kind of wondering what people think.

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Message 2 of 6 (60239)
10-09-2003 6:51 AM
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10-09-2003 2:28 AM


This is one of relics in the biblical text of the polytheistic origins of the Jewish faith. 'We' and 'us' refers to other gods who were later dropped as they moved to monotheism.

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Message 3 of 6 (60302)
10-09-2003 3:51 PM


Thread moved here from the Education and Creation/Evolution forum.

  
Amlodhi
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10-09-2003 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Pringlesguy7
10-09-2003 2:28 AM


quote:
Originally posted by Pringlesguy7
It has just kind of struck me as to who the "we" and "our" are. (Gen. 1:26)
I agree with Mr. Jack that it is probably a relic. I also think the term "Elohim" was originally an intentional plural even though it later functioned as a singular noun.
Others, though, will claim that God is indeed speaking to some "heavenly host" in this passage. Strict fundmentalists will claim that the plural pronouns refer to the Trinity.
Namaste'
Amlodhi

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Message 5 of 6 (60356)
10-09-2003 11:09 PM


I think it means the trinity, though that's only a theory.

  
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Message 6 of 6 (61557)
10-19-2003 12:50 AM


The New Testament Greek text always has creation by God the father and through Jesus the son of the father, the father being Jehovah. A classic example of it being done through the son is in John 1:10. No where in the NT does the Greek text say it was created by Jesus as the KJ translators and some others have incorrectly translated the text. In Psalms 104 things created are listed and at verse 30 we read, "You (referring to Jehovah) send forth your spirit, they are created." Jesus, remember, came forth also to be not created, but born from the Holy Spirit, so before physical birth he was of the Holy Spirit. It's somewhat of a mystery as to how it all works, but we do get an idea through these texts how the trinity (which by the way is not three gods) functioned in creation. You might say the Holy Spirit is that dimension/member of the trinity which is sent throughout the universe to do the will of the father Jehovah in making things come to be and happen. Also the spirit, having been sent by the father, imo, explains the "we" mystery in creation.
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