Is God of the NT different than God of the OT?

"Listen to Me, O Jacob, even Israel whom I called; I am He, I am the first, I am also the last. Surely My hand founded the earth, And My right hand spread out the heavens; When I call to them, they stand together...... Come near to Me, listen to this: From the first I have not spoken in secret, From the time it took place, I was there. And now the Lord GOD has sent Me (the pre-incarnate Jesus), and His Spirit." (Isaiah 48:12-13 & 16)"Do not be afraid; I am the first and the last, and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades." (Jesus speaking in Revelation 1:17-18Therefore, is the God of the New Testament different or the same as the God of the Old Testament?Edited by John 10:10, : No reason given.Edited by John 10:10, : Rephrased the question

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The evil one comes to steal, kill and destroy; but I Jesus have come that you might have eternal Life and have eternal Life more abundantly - John 10:10

Hi John 10:10.I'm new at this moderating gig so I will want the input of another admin before I promote this.I think you want to defend the idea that Jesus IS clearly the same God as the Old Testament God, but the way you put this says the opposite: Can you make this clearer?

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I thought about this one last night and I was confused by the question also.It isn't clear whether John 10:10 is saying that the God of the OT and the NT are the same or aren't the same.I feel he needs more narrative to clarify his position and what he is asking.Again, I concur with your evaluation. You're doing good FaithCarry On

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That bit is actually in your Bible? I don't think so....

Which GOD of the Old Testament, the one found in Genesis 1 who is effective and transcendant, the somewhat bumpling and fearful God of Genesis 2, the one with the big "Damn, better not do that again" found in the flood myth, the Mack Sennet caricature God of the Exodus myth, the gambler found in Job? Which God is it you wish compared?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

Aren't they all the same God?Brian.

Not sure how he sees them, that is why I asked the question. Beyond that, they are not GOD but only human created descriptions. If that is what he too believes then we may have a basis for discussion.

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

I think you possibly may be looking too deep at the poster's intention.What they are asking is a pretty common question, is the God of the NT the same God as the NT one?Christians would obviously have to say 'yes', and thus Jesus would be the somewhat bumpling and fearful God of Genesis 2, the one with the big "Damn, better not do that again" found in the flood myth, the Mack Sennet caricature God of the Exodus myth,and the gambler found in Job.What this is normally based on is the apparent contradiction between the barbaric nature of the OT God and the alleged loving peaceful nature of Jesus.Brian.

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Well of course the god of the new testament is the same as the god of the new testament.Realizing you meant one of those to be OT, I don't think they have to be the same. Couldn't the writers of the OT have gotten it wrong? Why? Kinda why I don't see them as really the same. I think god was misrepresented by the OT. He's the same god as Jesus but different because the way he is described in the OT is not accurate.Does that make sense?So, is the god of the OT the same god as the NT?I'd say yes and no. Yes becuase they are meant to be the same god but no because the god described in the OT isn't actually god but they were trying to describe real god and just got it a little wrong so actually yeah, they were the same god.^
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Indeed, just as the writers of the NT could have gotten it wrong. Apparently there are various reasons.Firstly, Christians tell me that Jesus' incarnation was foretold in the OT.There's a great many more reasons, but Matthew 1:23 is pretty conclusive. Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. And, since there is only one God according to the OT, then Jesus must be the God of both Testaments. Makes perfect sense.However, we could equally say that God is misrepresented in the NT and that Jesus is not God. Depends on ones perspective.A Xian wouls say yes, or yes and no, a Jew would say no, and objective me would say no.Brian.

Absolutely.When I read the Bible and think about God, the one in the NT is much more believable. Also, the stories in the OT are, well, older and most likely less accurate.The basis for my position that the god of the OT and the NT are NOT the same(which comes form the apparent contradiction in thier descripions) is that one of the testaments is inaccurate. But, because they seem to describing the same god (but differently) then I would have to say they ARE the same god.I guess I'd have to ask if they are describing the same god but the descriptions differ, are the gods the same?Do the intentions or the descriptions determine the identity of the god being described? And if Jesus is the god of the OT, does that mean that he would behave according to the discription of the OT? If not, is there really a contradiction then?I would say no, especially in the position that OT descriptions are inaccurate.

Maybe, but if so, they are different understandings of that god.Assuming that there is a single abrahamic god, the understanding of god
changed to meet the society of that time period (and mix in some individuals idiocyncracies at the same time)

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