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monkenstick Inactive Member |
are humans and other primates one "kind" Tranquility Base?
Just a moment...
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: ******************************* Good citation monkenstick. There are some further studies using differences in LINE and SINE integration differences in the works as well addressing old world monkey, new world, and the great ape relationships....oops I mean "kinds"
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Tranquility Base Inactive Member |
Monkenstick
There are three possibilities in our scenario: 1. The retroviral sequences were originally designed in and had an initial (pre-fall for example) beneficial role.2. The retroviral sequences inserted during the fall. 3. The retroviral seqeunces inserted deterministically at some other time via DNA motifs and hence incorporate relative to phylogenetics. It is good evidence of common descent, don't get me wrong, but it has possible answers in our scenario.
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mark24 Member (Idle past 5223 days) Posts: 3857 From: UK Joined: |
quote: You have evidence of the "fall", that is acceptable to science? If not, wouldn't you agree that common descent is the best explanation? Mark ------------------Occam's razor is not for shaving with.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: The so-called Fall of Man was a set up, as in planned all along. Adam and Eve had absolutely no concept of what right or wrong, or good and evil were. They knew nothing of what a consequence was either before they ate of the apple. In order for a person to be able to make such decisions they first must be able to understand these concepts, otherwise they are innocent children. As I've stated before, would you toss your children out into the world naked and ignorant the very first time they may have disobeied you? Would you be that much of an unfit parent. Would you demand that if some other parent did this to their children that they be arrested and charge as an unfit parent?
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derwood Member (Idle past 1904 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
I like this one, myself...
Catarrhine phylogeny: noncoding DNA evidence for a diphyletic origin of the mangabeys and for a human-chimpanzee clade - PubMed [This message has been edited by SLPx, 09-19-2002]
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derwood Member (Idle past 1904 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: What fall is that? Is there any evidence for this 'fall'? How would this 'fall' affect genomes?
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derwood Member (Idle past 1904 days) Posts: 1457 Joined: |
quote: Yes - I have always been astonished at the cold-heartedness displayed by the Hebrew tribal deity to its supposed 'children.'That and the wickedness of its tendency to slaughter innocents for, apparently, its own satisfaction. Sort of like worshipping Stalin or Pol Pot....
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RedVento Inactive Member |
They weren't being cruel, they were obeying their war-god. The one they kept in the Ark of the Covenant, YHWH. Actually the hebrew god, and his angels were always warrior like, not the kind hearted bearded man that is portrayed by Jesus and now the catholic church.
Page Not Found: 404 Error | Humboldt State University http://www.oneworldmagazine.org/focus/etiopia/arkref.html a brief history of Yawheh with the early hebrews :Judaism more on god's unloving nature :http://www.geocities.com/paulntobin/godbible.html that should be enough for now.. I am always fascinated by how christians resolve the changing nature of god from the OT to the NT.
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nos482 Inactive Member |
quote: I'm amazed that when they read this myth of Adam and Eve that they don't actually see the flaw in it. It's so obvious you could drive a semi through it.
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peter borger Member (Idle past 7693 days) Posts: 965 From: australia Joined: |
I like this one,
Genetica 1996 Oct;98(2):217-9 A unique genomic sequence in the Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome [WHS] region of humans is conserved in the great apes. Tarzami ST, Kringstein AM, Conte RA, Verma RS. Division of Genetics, Long Island College Hospital, SUNY Health Science Center, Brooklyn 11201, USA. The Wolf-Hirschhorn syndrome (WHS) is caused by a partial deletion in the short arm of chromosome 4 band 16.3 (4p 16.3). A unique-sequence human DNA probe (39 kb) localized within this region has been used to search for sequence homology in the apes' equivalent chromosome 3 by FISH-technique. The WHS loci are conserved in higher primates at the expected position. Nevertheless, a control probe, which detects alphoid sequences of the pericentromeric region of humans, is diverged in chimpanzee, gorilla, and orangutan. The conservation of WHS loci and divergence of DNA alphoid sequences have further added to the controversy concerning human descent. PMID: 8976066 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Mammuthus Member (Idle past 6503 days) Posts: 3085 From: Munich, Germany Joined: |
quote: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hmm controversy concering human descent..for example did Homo sapiens and Homo neandertalis mix genetically? Yeah, your selective reading really is overthrowing evolution...LOL!
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Andya Primanda Inactive Member |
quote: Warrior-God? Then examples of true believers must be the merciless Zionists and Osama bin Laden (US-made terrorist). And the people who thinks otherwise will end up in Hell... [escapes from a hail of stones thrown by an angry fundamnetalist Muslim mob]
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outblaze Inactive Member |
Can someone tell me the implication/significance of this research in laymen terms? I'm not knowledgeable in the field.
Just a moment...Catarrhine phylogeny: noncoding DNA evidence for a diphyletic origin of the mangabeys and for a human-chimpanzee clade - PubMed
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