The Evolution of Flight.... why are some birds grounded?

I see all the time "most" Creationists saying flight couldn't evolve. For those people I would like to ask a new question. Why do flightless birds have wings? What real use are they? After all they where designed. where they not? Wouldn't arms be more useful to them?[This message has been edited by DC85, 09-24-2003]

You might as well ask why Creation scientists have computer degrees but try to be writers in biology. Poor design on their part. Maybe the flightless birds bought their wings from a cheap wing-mill and yell loud enough to make some gullible people think they can fly.sorry, couldn't help it.

Seems a lot, and I mean a LOT can't help it. Which is a shame, I was just starting to think people here might have some intelligence. Maybe this sight should be renamed; 'Evolutionists Sarcasm'.

mike its a good question..... and all loudmouth is trying to say(he could have done it a better way) How come you people never think about these things? They are extremely important!![This message has been edited by DC85, 09-24-2003]

'How come you people never think about these things? they are extremely important!!'I think about a lot of things, you may even have a good point, but the level of sarcasm and 'assuming' what creationists think (generally) is starting to bore me. As for the grounded birds, why did they evolve useless wings? The same question can be asked of evolution, can it not?[This message has been edited by mike the wiz, 09-24-2003]

ok I will change it to most. However alot of you guys assume all evolutionists are atheists which I don't like either. I fail to see my sarcasm can you point it out?

Not really, because those birds have traded in those wings for fast legs like ostriches for example, and given time, it is likely that the vestigal apendage will either "evolve away" or become something usefull.The Kewi for example, has bearly noticable vestigal wings.[This message has been edited by Yaro, 09-24-2003]

'I fail to see my sarcasm can you point it out?'I meant this site, generally. For instance the 'Impersonations' topic.

no this question cannot be reversed the other way.. You need to understand evolution doesn't aim to become something else. where as creation requires purpose[This message has been edited by DC85, 09-24-2003]

Yes I admitt that could explain it, evolutionarily speaking.

So if I evolved there is no purpose to my life?

thanks for twisting things around to mean something else..... I am pretty sure you knew what I meant and you have nerve to say something like that after you just told us to stop being nasty? I meant like the wings having no use. Not meaning in life. I am going to get married soon.... I am in love that seems like pretty good meaning to me..... how about you?

It was not nasty, it's just that you said something about purpose,so i pounced.I have already answered Yaro, I told him he won the arguement. I enjoy honesty you see.

Penguins use their wings to swim am I right? I'm not so sure on the others.

I apologize, and promise to be more constructive. However, at the same time, the creationist sarcasm of "the farytale that is evolution," "evolution teaches people that there are no morals," etc. gets a little old after a while and causes my sometimes uninhibited wit to snap out in defense.But hey, have you tackled the problem of why flightless birds have wings? The OP seems to be directly aimed at your demographic.