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Brad McFall
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10-30-2002 10:17 AM


Abstract
Humprhies has recently acknowledged (still havent found this ref)the continental level of informed character geography via cladisitic information and though it had been forever the desire of Platnick and Nelson or Nelson and Platnick to speak on the mechanics of branching diagrams resolved by different procedures that could plurivocalize any character geography on an area CJ Humphrie' work outputs or not {in the sense that biogeography (example Humphries2002) historically or not} is to have been more than a check list activity to keyed out and run down classifications and being so sired by some colony etc created caldograms "too fat" in a yielded pathwayTHROUGH a database modelling "the branches" with cell automata (a different procedure used here in(inter alia via disscussion of math support practical from pure Cantor volumes etc) than done otherwise by "traditional(Ian Ball criticized)" cladistic practioners when compared to turning MSTs or any other algorithms relying on geographic proximity [in whole or in part, then] a single angle could view that this living samness (and possible fossil as well) IS different at least between data division allometrically morphometrically per plane allometry able to perpendicularize when not dyad operate [(scalar, vector, or not) see how network curvature (nothing in panbiogeography but something in cladistics arguably) answers in here] between activity and growth (for any defintion of genotype and phenotype) this character geography (this that Humpries did or any that would "progress"(p417N&P) relevant to affect while IN effect changes to the total optimization, overall curvature, baraminology, after these kinds, theoretical formulation) BUT NOT TOPOLOGY reserving this displayable by some statistic to discuss Newton's OPTICKS(ref)' "different laws and shapes in different spaces "(as part of 'spatial evolution' one community per colony at a time regime) falsifies under "fully informed" condition the resultant clade knowledge (data) base and vindicates no matter the "need to know" per topographic DIFFERENCE (rooting vs polarity orientation depends tangentially (hence why not morphometrically allometrically in the first ordination per ordinal (or Wolfram on Cantor out a MATHEMATICA WORKED BIOLOGY IN UPDATE) depending on root (centric, central, vs internal not center of origin resorts FROM the forms not TO the forms formations until the genetics is better specified at most (relevance of mutation rate, if neophenogeneis exists, should punc eq be considered relevant in the praxis, doing a better job with the math of Wright etc) at least what either Croizat was not given credit for or his (NZ) inheritors were heard to enumerate (1) as a source of taxa for spatial analysis by way of minimum spanning trees, or (2) as a source of evidence for orientation, or rooting, of such structures is being considered to reduction in the new kind o f science based on computers Wolfram heraled (not terminal taxons only) This paper shows how different mechanical generators of randomness can splay repetition in rooting such functionality out to affordances functional VIA Meta Data to resourced taxa only if, geographic proximity be granted an a priori status (preliminarily) in which chance randomness is continually (in the model being resovlded in terms of determinate rules (at least in so far track +genoreitron = continuum (Croizat MANUAL OF PHYTOGEOGRAPHY) (cladists are free to argue with this plenum where dispersal and development are in the same trajectory)) that show clades have TOO MUCH information to reliably extract the kinematic (needed in evaluating Wolfram's principle of equilvalent sophistication NOT as Leibig's Law of Minimum (the desire)) and tend to be too universal while "true" for finding the physical continuty that links endemsism in a past time of deductive biogeography which finaly receives a lexicographic form without being tied to Simpson's "kinetic phylogeny". By using a Wolfram new kind of science it is shown that tracks can not be viewed formally in any way but the materiality of Leibig's Minimum Law not in the abduction as area cladograms unless the 1-D --2-D cell automata model is bridged (Wolfram's at large claim FROM computation TO Equivalence) and this can be done equally as well deductively if not merely by a calculation 1) if Wolfram is wrong and only nesting is in the total optimization analysis to have been the dimension of Cantor criticized as 'fractal' existing and/or 2) the line between transmssion and physiological genetics is better understood in terms of 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics (for instance). Since neither of these conditions need be approached(same kind of issue in physics of turbulence vs particle physics methods to some same truth) to pursue the analog computations from MSTs and other geographic proximity use-topographies N&P's view is marginalized until some notion of Lerner's notion of location in population genetics occurs for Dobshansky's defintion of MESO Evolution(this may have already been indicted if Hardy-Weinberg MATHif is is already in the perception and analysis of Wolfram (unless mutation, migration and selection are in some colonies more important than MENDELS LAWS unhindged in a cellular automata evolution (neophenogenesis if canning Dawkins' position (not generally) could etc meme etc etc) binomial of Pascal scored in electromagnetism but perhaps is being rotating regardless the continuity (but not the discontinuity)...

Introduction
P&N tend to think that a short cut should NOT be suppposed to coordinate topography by geographic proximity yet they do not say as to once a track oriented a la Craw or a Cladogram is turned upside down if computational irreducibility is READ in terms of mechanical randomness (problem Weingberg noted on compression notion of randomness generalized)at least the same way for physical reversibilty or not (i.e. no solely physicists' notion of the complex as simple but also the ecologist who regardless of randomchance's chance randomness need not side with Wolfram but could be more continuously approaching the same in whatever particularity it is that Wolfram has expected contradiction on (see full contents in BSM categorical approaches @ END PAPER). Wolfram tends to think that computations are reversible but the information in cladograms and panbiogeography are not in any way even sufficiently the same as the work out of NZ^1, has been so distinguished. It seems possible to use the information of animals and plants on maps to flesh out Wolfram's use of robustness with respect to computational operations as opposed to robustness with repspect to mathematical operations on areally co-extensive sets but to do this within the heuristic provided, spatial analysis that re-sorts resorts to clades or tracks whould have to be available to image + geography information technology manipulation and surfing etc (it is not certain MATHEMATICA must be the software used for some commenality in hardware) (even thought the logic carriers may materially differ).
The issue (Mayr82 p721) that Darwin, Galton, Weismann and De Vries struggled with was from Pascal observation In the Eighth Consequence of THE ARITHEMETICAL TRIANGLE as to "if the generator were not unity" while Mendel and Pascal may have attended to the same perception before the induction mathematically. Unless some Mendelism arise directly from the conception of cellular automata modeling in turn the focus on biogeographic characterizations may progressively derive per topography any topology the derived characters of biometry were that Wright dedicated so much effort under investigation so as to if de Vries be considered a classical genetist (Mayr 82 pp727-731) then my wokr is undoubtedly genetic in this sense but I use only rotations in the theory so far and so-so with this advance but not before will one actively say a body transformed during the oribt and with this revolution in ecology one may rest to conspire only Ernst Mayrs (which is not enough) important stress on the difference between phenotype and geneotype to have been distinguishable (in the Information Technology sense) but so by him discriminated (into is not onto). Mayr is correct to say the 3:1 ratio "refutes" a multiple-particle postulate (the history of infinite division vs infinite componentability not even Wolfram seems to get non-biologically deterministic correct) but this works on basis of nesting for which row and columns must be symmetrical, thus should particle motions, molecular reaction syntheses or population kinematics by asymetrical in this respect the refutation no longer holds. Galton's hypothesis to particle-particle interactions per organic molecule as randomnly fluctuate in the kinetic theory of gas is highly apprehendable in Wolfram's "science" and shows more particularly as Wolfram can show repetition from continuity (Mayrs use of concept of blending inheritance that put De Vries, Weismann, Darwin and Galton on the same list in the sense of space as a network exactly comes out the analysis as Galton discontinuity (between ogranic and molecule) referred to Pascal's Triangle (no matter Waddington's contribution). It appears that Pascal, Wolfram, Maxwell, Croizat, Mendel and Galton were correct (me too) and Provine and Mayr incorrect.
Now Mendel has asserted "The postions however, which may be assigned to them [peas used] in a classificatory system are quite immaterial for the purposes of the experiments in question." (p ) but if Wolfram's and Galton's notions on "grey level" continue to apply Pascal's Triangle to the task, biodiversity informatics may bear largely on a loop of terrain abandonded so far in the history of genetics for being "immaterial" after the establishement of reasoning with the Hardy-Weinberg equilibrium despite some other indications in manifestation of Goldschimidt's position effect etc but that biology gave a too narrow conception of th experiemental (synthesis and analysis) philosophy Onvolved as Mendel has conceived it no matter that need to see atomic vs molecular had not occurred in the physiological chemsitry as yet for it was felt that mere name differences did not amount to the stuff of biochemistry despite the reality of the stamp collector. This difference between Mendel's and Galton's approach(Olby p. ) to the hybrid chore in Pascal's visualization seems to be invertable by Pascal's "Problem" after the "Last Consequence" (in THE ARITHEMETICAL TRIANGLE) but my preliminary ideas about MATHEMATICA use-cases would nee more elaboration with examples of out put than I have time to else verify at present.
Galton has recognized that developement and scoring in Pascal's Triangle would not seperated unless the specific atomic nature of inheritance were already specified (lets not jump the gun on causal interpretation of DNA sequences but Lewontin's restraint is called for while this work is in progress) provided especially one can situate Galton's word "uniform" either with Univerality or Uniform(Wolram related to repetition) so by component infinity sorting between atomics and molecules per population (target of Gladyshev's discipline of Macrothermodynamics) it may be possible to find the TORque that could be common to DNA and form making in immoblism (Croizat). This possibility nullifies Mayr's position on Galton even if orthogenesis does not exist.
If Galton's notion of mean greyness (Letter to Darwin Dec 19/75 p71 Olby) "It has been an old idea of mine, not yet discarded and not yet worked out, that the number of units in each molecule may admit of being discovered by noting the relative number of cases of each grade of deviation from the mean greyness." can be found involved with Wolfram's new kind of science there is no need for biological databases to be divided into phenotype and genetotype and the distinction of mathematical, population and biometical genetics refused in nature not electronics. Stirps (Galton) might simply be {despite otherwise entropy vs irreversiblity} adaptations as molecular free path length vacillations fixed across generations in bioentropisms JUST AS I TOLD WILL PROVINE (but was he listening? --NO) and we would be on our way to describing which came first the adaptation or being adapted.

and if Wolfram's work does not more than point this out for biology it will have earned a husbandmans heart.

The SCIENCE writer Mitchell ^2 on Wolfram said that "computing processes in nature are almost always equivalent in sophistication" "does not make sense to me" but when I, personal observation, saw Stephen Wolfram stand on the Ag Quad and say the same thing (in the context of his total view) I KNEW what to make of his ~84 NATURE review of cellular automata [behavior classifications {Philosophy of Wolfram's dead end or short cut that "everything is a computation" (the programming cost to calculate computations) It is my opinion that because of the varying psychological input needed during a human Computation there is some cost associated with this activity that to claim such is reversible in the sense of Maxwell's "demon" or other realizable out of statistical mechanics INDPENDENt development is not more possible than the evolutionary law view of the legal theories (amalgam vs worldview) that could accomplish me in retribution of having been committed to a mental hospital for trying to think a little hbit more difficult process than extracting a universal computation or in this case any calculation from tissue or chemistry which was thought process of/in evolutionary theory as to extract/convert-energy (by magnetic inertia etc) from biophysical soma due to millions of years of conspiring (see, need not be Gould and Eldridge's Punctuated Equilibrium)(genetic) motion or unreformable shapes that prima facie are either notion of how motion is got (standard talk of science popular and otherwise) or that which constantly disappears for one reason or another. It may be possible to have a computer operating system otherwise "reversibly" at cost to permanentize a Newton notion etc. continually damaging human reasoning (such that Pascal's example of a machine does not) where entropy is explicitly engineered into the issue of irreduction of universality etc but virtual reality as concept is already potentially too tissue invasive for me to on this economic support/foundation/base it just as I do not support to port cloning humans for medical EXPERIMENT as my invovlement with psychiatry is practically no involutarily different no matter the "transferenece" etc.}]which at the time simply struck me as being "out there" and requireing some investigation and I did recall specifically immediately to mind in the content of his third 'plausibility' claim Liebig;s law of the minimum expressed interms of a maximum (of constructed microscopic physics (in the whole "information" (I did not think of Cantor however(however one conceives the histroy of socio-biology) which in a similar mental process was engaged when Von Weisaker spoke of infinity and quantum mechanics (Wolfram spoke actually other of quantum f i eld theory (not quantum mechanics) sensu stricto)flow( that Weinberg ref states particle physicists have not cared for (for the biological location that may be in the incidence GEOMETRY axiomatic panbiogeography))). The computations of worm and man engage in and are equivalnet if the presumed universality of universality is also irreducible but so far I find this only the heuristic and not even the hypothesis (see one in my fungus modeling result below) of universal computation support so one can not say as Ms. Mitchell does that there is no lawful sense to Wolfram's hubris. What if he is as correct after all as Bell Lab's Sch~on is incorrect?
This IS a new kind of science that does and did have immediate relevance to any (if any) statistical significance could accrue to tracks in historical(sic!) biogeography but Stephen's view on Natural Selection may prevent all but the most steeled Creationists from reconizing the design (Cantors or not) such so while Croizat's work is not "generally accepted scientific explaination or predictions" (Taxacom postings of John Grehan and general concept of "spatial analysis" argueing otherwise (quite successfully) in my opnion) retrodicted this spatial analysis showing this false, predictively, on falsification generally of some dimension contained and soon it (as the "new kind of science" becomes THE and not A science) will no longer be the exception to put Croizat on the edge of a Lunatic cartoon of Cantor A, B, C, D...L which for sake of B+-C etc do not yet extend and relegate Turings' Machines to a conceptual appendage of Cantor Scholarship. Bertrand Russel could have welcomed this thought.

P&N rather argue for misinterpretations of non-randomly relevant factors (This relevance is called into question axiomatically that (which) embraces ancestral area biogeography but denies in the default[ if cladistic information is the only relevant non-random factor (which the ability to model biology in terms of cellular automata calls into question) in sorting different geographic relationships this factor implied, implies in an appeared inability to seperate ecology and biogeography (hence dispute about domain of macroecology (in THIS YEAR's NAture or Science), that an invariance in the niche can never be found to act homogenously on two different monophyletic groups in the same PHYSICAL area, physics' space and time but by not attending to this the cladogram is too fat (magnitude at thickness) when tipped (on the line of sight used)] no matter the common descent that the "composite" area need be treated unitarily as the cellualar automata that network spatial evolution of geodesics vs non-geodesics need not overlap as could be simulated by a multiways system (not a Kripke natural kind etc.)) but if Wolfram is indeed scientifically responsible (during a transition from an induction to deduction (Croizat SysZOO) for the random physicality (as to Croizat's claim if vicariance or chance dispersal is to go(in Correspondence with Craw over significance of NZ to future panbiogeography? Published in TUATARA?? but see Smith in New Zealand Journal of Zoology, 1989, Vol.16 for a compromise in terms of "environmental organisation"(nano ecology?) that because of outstanding neopheogensis can not be evaluated at this moment) inherent so in form-making and translation in space (Croizat) it only requires to build an analog universal computation device for any space/time/form series (sensu Croizat) either directly from a plant or by way of experiment???ation of cost of computation to reverse the calculable steps any topology could be so discreetized then P&N criticism (1984,1988) be dismissed and summary judgement of Wolfram's new kind of science entered at least the margin is not White Mythology etc as to the principle of equivalent sophistication in terms of neighborhoods of endemisms. Since Wolfram's found by MATHEMATICA PDE can possibly model scales of lizards and snakes if the plane is closed to a cylinder this compromise may not be neecessary in any range change that age and area brings to challenges to natural selection etc and rather during this closing (evolution as involution- as Lewontin had it) of form making in mobilism the catastrophe set that so topologizes this "unhindged" cellular automata view of dynamics in terms of kinematic neighboorhoods (BUT NOT ENDEMISMS) may represent the relation NO MATTER THE SPECIES (the difficulty with genetic generalizations is that they are often tied to acutal taxonomic practice but the work of Mayr seems to have failed to impress more what he meant by "bean bag") to what ecology continues to bring to biodiverse light and will continue on a slower pace as we explore the solar system (unless of course "life" is found someplace else).
As Wolfram TAKES physical responsibility for random factorizations in data, it is possible mentally (was P&N concept of software) to argue against P&N that Craw may have philosophically missed the hippo politics of graphy theory as to suggestions on only non-random relevance certainly when it comes to "orienting" tracks if not yielding to the electric nature of Newton's directum but because once again topology and topography can not be but confused so on this information whether over hills or dales it may be in fact that biology changed the "nervous" 'system' for abolition of Linus Pauling's chemical correlation(s) not quick adaptations as has been a goal in medical science. No one has seemed to respond to Faraday's question as to if an electric fish can be quite literally a conductor alternatively also an insulator and at will yet?
Thus for example though experience may have taught us that heat effect of a chemical process is NOT altered very strongly with temperature, this may OR may not be true for bioentropisms if such exists and despite the fact that one may apporach repeticiously A=U (Leicester) some reversible galvanic element, Aristotle's Chamelon Environment, or mental (nervous system) process IN A HOMOGENOUS PHASE could by the math of Fourier Analysis create a development where not a heritibility that though unwilling is in still being Newton's electric and elastic Spirit yield to growth
d i f f e r e n t then activity EVEN in a materialism+naturalism that uniform also being (Starling in Leicester) so sophisticated could be simply biochange by reciprocity on the organism level, that is nothing but an angle.
I am still trying to situate myself with respect to the relation of initial conditions and boundary values in potential diveristy of universality instances but qualitatively I think I have what may be needed in pursuit of proove or disprove of neophenogensis, orthogenesis and various other possible De Beer notions outlineable about the body under transformation. The stricking difference of lizards and snakes by simple ordinal change from 1st through 4th in Wolfram's PDE and likely confirmation that the "shock" is noththing of the electric sort but rather a manifestation as Wolfram noted of how infinite time can be encoded by algebraic changes to time (finite)(c/e poster "erick" probably did not think this possible) variable in equations if being a model for biological change time (millions vs thousands of years etc)(thus interchanging boudary and initial semantics in application of automata to reality) could be if this is indeed the EXTERNAL VARIABLE of classical genetics (Olby hardly considers this "classical") which it seems to be if the plane presentation is closed around itself being a model of the relation of the OUTSIDE of a herp to its enviroment wich contains via changes in time as per above to how medelian mechanics "fuels" biochange ("evolution") thus making the PDE the relation of heritibility and developement ( as theorized in the hypothesis of neophenogenesis) and the graphing of this as the old nature/nurture now ALL environs thus explaining why D'Arcy Thompson's notion till now had not found a determinate biological praxis.
This can STILL be spiritual in the c/e debate sense but some c/e talkers seem unable to so walk and end up at least biologically confusing locomotion and kinesis despite the potential electromagnetic explaination of mutations if not only chemical correlations are found in leading normal physiology, but as if substitution systems of nanoecology are reliably COMPARED. This is not an easy chore to state let alone task out the operations in enough detail to be both comprehensive and LACK a suffiency of superfluidity.

With the builiding of nanotechnology we are no longer practically talking about even the answer in general pharmacology in so far as even the chemical reactions are concerned. This can not be said of the solution however, forever.

Materials & Methods
Thus it being argued that it NEVER was true cladistics + panbiogeography = vicariance biogeography becasue in terms of {claims (1) and (2) abstract} resolution of characters can be relegated to catastrophe set discreetness LESS THAN the model partitions (in topology) more generally for all contributing formations of constranits in any kind of model as characters if? (P&N deny this as unlikely) reciprocally illuminating give MORE not less illumination between systematics, and biogeography OR stratigraphy and hence geological correlation as claimed in spatial analysis INcreases continuity no matter the discreetness reached (physico-chemically/shape of macromolecle) in the transition FROM continutity (history WOlfram writes his new kind of science in) to transitions of calculations due to different fractioned bases (numerologies) for physiological genetic support no matter the transmission. It is entirely possible that Darwin's thinking in terms of Lyel's geology is in error and attempts at creating straight line relations between genes and geological horizons are mistaken in the idea that gene=logic circuit but must be replaced by the seperation cellular automata provide in theory but not science. This error comes from nodes having in empirical physical geometry some center byut this need not be oN a geodesic. It may be that in a rush to mold the transformation the body became disembodied as the language of evolutionary theory would show as true ( H M. Morris- "their words can be used against them"). I will present some plans to find this location by cause of tetraploid deviation from random assortment extending the use of Mass Selection by Modelling the 1 of Pascal's Triangle as a 2 where the details will try to use reciprocal figures in the flower (organism=day lily) to alter which is selected a boundary or intial condition (this would be difficult in animals because they move too fast (thus why the first "mendelians" were botanists etc if it works).
It depends on how Mendel's Law (not taxonomy being the last but not least preoccupation of the biogeographer)s are worked into the parameterization of the model but since N&P p412 say that an assumption (no use of moblie automata etc) to construct an accurate classification (Mednel said the classificaiton did not matter to the genetics but this does not mean the genetics did not matter to the taxogeny) of taxa (taxonomy relevant to taxogeny) is toleable and permitted independent of distribution in time and space this point of controversey is moot (for which Craw,henderson and Grehan's PANBIOGEOGEAPHY can largely be read to clear up) but it is certainly not NEEDED to be true that histogeny must be found categorized only in geodesic physics for any network approached in the patterning of any network.

Wolfram-930 "Many topological and geometric properties of the underlying network can affect the overall behavior of a cellular automaton on it." It is the claim of this paper that cladistic information resolves itself NOT in terms of topology in so far as any difference of turning tracks or cladograms upside down but in doing so in terms of geometry and topography. And deductions are developed using an axiomatic panbiog and notion of topological spaces satisfying a,b,c,d, (attached) that so has had cladistics sitUATED in terms of propositions not axioms. One is free to try with a long end of dispersal to run the reasoning the other way around space for any substitutional logic in say a multiways system of moblie automata but seeing as N&P simply ask on what basis (the above herein and interalia) are " the particular connections and roots chosen in spanning tree approaches" (411)this inverse formality needn ot be pursued where geographic proximity is to ultimately orginate as the results depend on a bound not a limit and the axioms are more than this less Hilbert's while the materiality is likely more Pascal's than any thing Wolfram understands at present for the relation of all this modeling to Natural Selection. Certianly Orthogenesis( Grehan) is a possiblility but one need not reason as Crick on Vitalism from a paucity of theoretical purports as Weinberg did (ref) even if the elastic natureof the work continues to yield to the impression of others of the this rigor.
By using Maxwell's imaginary fluid and concomittant electrotonic geometric imaging (an alternative to Wolfram's discreete perception and analysis) contraints for a template it is possible to concieve how morphogeny may be per taxogeny be associated with how different networks are laid out which is a veiw per neighboorhood (not endemism(which is required in the biology strictly) that illustrates (a new theory/expt couple biology provides WITHOUT ANY PHILOSOPHY OF MATH within Wolfram's program to the empirical physical geometry without seperating effects of the machine on the result and needs a science in bioemetry of the error caused by the work itself(clock vs rod etc) that illustrates how caldes but not tracks would be likely found to have more information than that needed to get the physical continuity of the geographic distribution (p327-336 in Wolfram's method)

Results
If Wolfram's position on Fundamental Physics continues to hold (union vs unity per any "sort")as the software to simulate this formality of theoretical formulation in deductive biogeography (pure issue with Wolfram over base number system (where matrices are combined etc) vs other history of science reading of set theory, paradoxs and ordertypes NO MATTER THE STRENGTH of the Stong Cantor Ordering assumptions when it came to Zandee and Rooss Cladistics 3(4):305-332 that Platnick and Nelson cite in exception with regard to implemetnation or specification of meta data constuction means when not also the method etc) one need not longer maintain a priori (1) and (2) of the Abstract but Object Oriented Programming could "evolve" this seperation in re-use hierarchies for used to have been spatial analysis that rather (current NZ PANBIOGEOGRAPHY book )have (had directories multiway solute of ordertypes for chaning base line base number system differences to any required sister taxon length per endemism of a given geology in a substitution system) that rather have geographic proximity EMULATED ( with relevant(It claims that ordination by ordertypes of a 3-D(not volume) niche that does not distinguish ecology and biogeography is incapable of discovering a law of nature that was discoverable by phylogeny alone. It means that no invariance can be found by ordinating the niche despite the fact that such is (in the cofusion of ecology and biogeography) indeed at all that can be numbered (even if NOT with Wolfram but rather from GIS hyperlinked etc) but philosophically inheres in quality (as Wolfram perceives) not quanity (in this analysis comptuerized) areally co-extensive sets in a knoweldge base) in the empirical distances a posteriori on basis of exclusion by speed of light,unavailable quark rxns, etc to direct orthogonalities parralleling speciation taxogeny etc of spatial evolution as per correlations to stratigraphy etc are better unified.
Since it is not obvious what relation R being one-one couples every term of series s with a term s' (series') beings tree is independent variable, forms are dependent variables correlated series different monophyletic cladograms or phylogenetic trees and morphologies without morphogenies the two series are correlated as classes with or without being correlated in series once morphogeny is incorporated however thus associating symbols s and s' may not be necessary/needed(digital switch).It is possible that some of Wolfram's reasoning is not of the whole organism type (Mayr has clarified) but rather of the older blending kind that Mendelism in any sense of the word obviates quantitiatively but if one restricts Wolfram's notion of limit of PDEs = cell automata to the boundary of the external variable WITH developement and heritbility embryology survives this wihout blending back into the older view that if the particles are specified may be infinitely compounded in theory possibly to some other effect but I suspect it is lack of explict infinte divisibilty (Anaxagors etc) that is needed in showing Organicism false in this whole organism attitude.

Axiomatic Panbiog and Universality- the issue of reduction and irreducible addressed in biogeography by laying out networks in different patterns for use in ontogeny etc. that pin point HIGHER ORDER spaces still approximated in morphometircs when not also rigours statistics of allometry.

Hericium is a tooth fungus legendarily responsible for motivating the field of mycological science. The species RAMOSUM vs CORALLOIDES; AMERICANUM and ERINACEUS fill out the generic modelling possibility of automata as to investigate chemical adaptations such or adapations chemically for all relations to sister groups.

It had been noted by HJ Brodie ( Fungi elight of Curiousity )in 1978; "Presumably the branchlets of the Coral Fungus grow downward in response to the effect of gravity, though it appears that no one has proved this by actual experiment. It is an amusing thought to realize that if, by some mishap, the Coral Fungus pushed its most delicate branches upwards instead of down, it would be classified in a different family of fungi - the Clavariaceae-..."

It has been asked as to what "evolutionarily" support Wolfram's notion of "free will" circumscribes and as one could have already thought as I did (Stephen seems to have the more interesting comment on this topic under "History of chaos theory" (p971) rather than FRE{E WILLp1135)}on PROGRESSIVE amplifications of small spheres bombardment changes yielded gas randomness but by different free paths which I TRIED in vain to have WILL PROVINE respond to as NOT an issue of phase transition between liquid/solid/gas/plama but rather as a potentially programetic ability of biology to code and program (in Wolfram's sense that started from investigation of kinematics of self-gravitating that need not follow stat mechnics averages all the time on the total scale; telomatically or teleologically) differeneces in this chance of a common universality and ability thus theoretically to "extract" computations based on the Mendelian Algebra but still WIll was only hearing to the Christian GOD and not the actual blue print he should have NOT tried to mentor etc thus I do not think this is the "free will" that to paraphrase S. WOlfram "divides denominations" but evolutionists have still not right to exclude this thought from HIGHER EDUCATION as medicine may have been permanantly deading the brain able to carry in this free will a bit more freely because chemical coordimation though economically crucial for the psychiatiric community struggle for existence is no digest of the possibilityes this GENUS now presents if one can just manage to read as if mobile automata from Croizat's method instead of the bleached ivy that was TAUGHT of as evolution. I doubt even Christianity would mind if evolution simply stuck to "good science" and this work may be able to answer Pope Joh Paul's massive statement as if the whole teaching IN BIOLOGY is not running counter to the network of chmeistyr and physics that the international community is pursuing nonetheless and so still phenomienoligcally until the fugus speices means are ID'd is nesting only I continue in sight for even the "simple program" applied in biology may have to revert back to the self-gravitating nouns Wolfram began with rather than trying to pry the 90s investment in IT where only virutal reality can be otherwise. I do not know but it had allways anyways in the context of fractal being the wrong word for rather Cantor's criticism of the Greek concept of Dimension that Dedekind downplayed that organisms could have already adapted to what Wolfram wishes to be pusued as a new kind of science and that it is by different "manipulations" of randomoness on the gas level etc that is the CAUSE of tolerance of organISMS to environMENTS and consequent adaptaion IN such by change in gene frequency etc mutable etc etc but only a better symolic computation will show if rather not this is NOT a bioentropism which could intellecutally weigh against wOLFRAM'S favor. SO unless plants, animals, fungus, or other life is shown to acutally produce the equivalent sophisticatkon of a 110 cell auto the biogeography of Madagascar may likely still provide the continiuty that is freey being willed to not exist whether it does or does not aprirori.

The mycologogical funugs can possibly be "interogated" to this affect when not in effect etc.

Wolfram intends to relativize SPACE as network apparently in the post-modernism such that if one started with a 3 point network for ERINACEUS (Hericium) and arbitrarily (at this random, sensu inter alia) selects a fractal to fit in the computer memory between the 1-D and 2-D models of the effect or cause of gravity in the growth and development of this living and reproducing form, then by the time the MODEL reaches biogeographic precision the continuity of the theory-expt cycle which topography necessarily can not split even if the Mendelian "mechanics" does a better approximation to emprical measures that take into account variance as well as simply randomly tried intitial conditions could result such that one may predict with the same model both the any allopatric speicaiton geography AND the reason chemcaily or merely adapationally that AMERICANUM only sporulates out the branch tips while the European kind does anywhere along the Underside of the "branch" which is part of the NEtwork Erinaceus sp model to begin the relax and realize that such is not only doable but preferable to the current intelligence that tends to think the rxn diffusion equations are the way to do the theory that has yet to emerge from the catatstrophe that motivated it.

This muc can be again simply be viewing the sityuation and in WOlfram's ideas would if nothing else be able to distingusih the difference of tugging (in the mycelia) vs differential allometry but the role of gravity needs be causally explict even if we still can not give a cause of gravity any better that Maxwell. Techniclaly model rigidity would be defined and somewhat arbitary unless isssues in chemcial vs bioentropic adaptaions are not worked out in a difference of language of code and program for teleology may have been correct after all.

From this genus if this works one may actually HAVE a micro thoeory speaking to the time of Dobshansky MESO EVOLUTION able to "predict" mushroom CAP biogeography as the toothed fungus button and the mushroom button are oftern indistinguishable to the expert without genetic analysis. Mycologists would finally be disabused of the applelation of GILLS with respect to the ORIENTATION of the automatic direciton of continuance but now I begin to speak of a truth that has not been more objectivised as it OUGHT.

Conclusions
Ian Ball and Spatial Evolution empirical sentence standard in theoretical biology ( N&P1988p413 when discussing "congruent intercontinetal distributions" thought that it made "no difference" if this process of seperation whether in unity or union mattered little if none if the pattern was concieved in a perception not deceptive of regions or baselines but this relativization depends ON THE EXACT (COMPUTATIONAL CLASS) DERIVED in passing from the continuity to discontinuty being modeled(clarification from the Mathematics of how phylogenetic and biogeographic criteria REQUIRE tracks, to be drawn, say with hypothetical cladistic data, WHEN the minimum distance of spatial evolution on account of the connectivity in generalizing tracks (XeX), the orientation from main massings IS CONSTRUCTABLE from the space defined, in generalizing trackS wholy measureable by the derived sets or limit points in a series of individual track limit points or usefulness in spatial analysis of many continusous methods (clique compatibility etc) thus producing, a way to ensure that way geological information not (at places) such as are O U T SIDE the data points under consideration ( as in the difference of minmial spanning trees and Steiner trees) but only those points measurable by the track construction and of geological vivacity deviate from the rule of track construction by limit point minimal spanning trees, unless via higher symbolization something orhter than latitude and longitude be used as the search for Faraday's absolute charge continues in the pace while the geographic coordinate system, GIS etc. are made and expandable were whether by geological perceptions from time codified with or without Wolfram's idea of Cantor occurred in some biological model using MATHEMATICA% WHETER ONLY POINTS (COLLECTION LOCALITIES, OR LINES AS TRACKS SERVE AS INPUT) AND BECAUSE OF THIS DIFFENCED aXIOMATIC PANBIOGEORAY susbtitues when their is not a consensus on the statement in historical biogeography sighted in Morrone and Crissci ("A Glimpse Into the Future" "one clear conclusion however is the basic language of historical biogeography will be area cladograms which allow to testing of hypotheses of general patterns 90,119,135)to take the reasoning ability to a next generalized track claim))The issue of 1-d vs 2-d cellular automata is not irrelevant but depends at least in part on the calculus of anti-nodes and approaches to statistical signficance based on Markov Chains etc.))The difference between the baseline and the region approahces in ancestral area bioegoraphy depends ONLY on shape and winding (NOT knotting)), Panbiog Atlas and Vertex Analysis (comparision to Calculus approaches where the issue of KNOTING arose) Proof is due to how universality comes out of the formal system and thus falsifies statement that area cladograms are the "basic language" of historical biogeography such that with cladistic thinking in propositions the axioms are simple enough to keep up to nesting categorically at the topographic level thus that any populational topology (Calculus) that could a priori (say Fisher vs Wright) bring this samness to universality does not occur except for endemisms and areas (with or without isolation by distance for instance) built directly from the clade rather than the geography or stratigraphy (error of longitudes ranged in the theory provision Weston had noted a problem with the statistical testing of panbiogeographic hypotheses that laws based on cellular automata may give a broadend (beyond cladistics and general area cladograms) data collection mechanism to experiment in panbiogeography as well as deduce problems out of the older inductive zoogeography and phytogeography and suitably programmed may help in sustaining biodiversity informatics in a bioinformatic economy biased to only accelerated drug discovery for any substantial figure etc.)
Acknowledgement- Thanks to J. Grehan for returning the connection in an e-mail addressing if tracks had been synthesized with a width the forms reform but undersized.
References
Croizat Systematic Zoology
Collet BioMath 2002?1
Leicester Henry M. ed. Source Book in Chemistry 1900-1950p167-173 ON THE CALCULATION OF CHEMCIAL EQULIBRIUM FROM THERMAL MEASUREMENTS by W. Nernst
Mayr, Ernst.1982. The Growth Of Biological Thought The Belknap Press of Harvard University Press: Cambridge974pp.
Mendel
Moorone J.J. and Crisci J.V.1995.Historical Biogeography: Introduction to Methods ANN REV OF ECOL SYST 26:373-401.
Olby, Robert C.1966. Origins of MendelismSchocken BooksInc: New York NY 204pp.
Platnick Norman, I. and Nelson, Gareth 1984 Composite Areas in Vicariance Biogeography SYST.ZOOL., (3):328-335
1988 Spanning-Tree Biogeography: Shortcut, Detour, or Dead- End? SYST. ZOOL. 37(4):410-419, 1988
Page, R. D. M. (1987) Graphs and generalized tracks: quantifiying Croizat's panbiogeography. SYSTEMATIC ZOOLOGY 36:1-17
Rappaport, Areography
Serpinski? Topology
Weston Peter H. Problems with the statistical testing of panbiogeographic hypotheses NEW ZEALAND JOURNAL OF ZOOLOGY, 1989, Vol 16:511-511
Weinberg NEW YORK REVIEW OF BOOKS
Wolfram, Stephen A New Kind of Science 2002

1)Panbiogeography Craw, Grehan , Henderson?
2)In: Books Doing Science Is the Universe a Universal Computer by Melanie Mitchell

End Paper:
Definitions:
Topology a.b.c.d
Axiomatic Panbiogeography
Proposal of Cladistics
Deductive Biogeography
1Prima Facie Proposition and Plurivocal Definitions

2 Form-making by Translation in Space (Maxwell's electric translation and magnetic rotation introduces the electrotonic displacment co-ordinates as a biological subset of vicariance biogeography under ontogenic laws of growth vicariantly (two removes from any reciprocal influence) during at most electro-pollution bioassay creation as Descartes is no Chinese.
THE USE OF COMPUTERS TO ADVANCE COMPARATIVE ("scripture" does not = computing)BIOLOGY

Chap1- The Arithemetical Triangle and the whole minimal analogy principle (see Gould on Brugess Shale) as Grehan's excuse for track width in comparison to the Chinese 1003 version for any mitotic system; not monads of Liebig (see Gould as aforesaid but do not do as Liebniz did for continuity for as Leibig sought at least with plants to continue to substantize
Chap2- Fleshing out the areally co-extensive set reality on any
meta data use
Chap3- Spatially Extending Electronics ending on Poe's Moon and a Glance at Sunset JVSYMTH (for) "Do seeds fall to Earth or Sun or Node for any other not as specific orbit in trajectory other not as specific orbit in trajectory responding to subscriber.

Chap4 Wallace Line and Computer Standards

Chap5 "Abducting' data extracting consequences

Chap6 Visualizations via Mathematica and beyond to Age and Area etc.

Chap7 End of Cladistics vs Phenetics when the basic work of comparative zoology moved plasm from the Museum to the Field while pursuing techno-bio and biodiversity informatics.

Chap8 Necesary Protocol in the Discovery Process of Perversions' existence as part of any universality.

3 Ideal Plane in Panbiogeography - expts, models and database structures

4 History, Baseline, and Centers @ Origins

5 Mapping Standards and Individual Track Claims Ordinal thoughts

6 Vicariance and Actual Individual Track Claims (relevance of panbiogeography to biology as a whole)

7 Use of Vicariance Biogeography as an Interval to Spell fears of nanotechnology linked to whatever truth is in neophenogenesis( electrotonic displacement coordinated with neophenogenesis for any all other neophenogenic velocity (De Beer outlined) and force (beyond Hardy Weinberg equilibrium) ~ Wolfram's claim of) irreduction in a principle of equivalent sophistication as Leibig's Law of Minimum.

8 Croizat and Post-Modernism
PRETENDING TO WRITING BIOLOGY WHERE ONLY COMPARING FIGURES

1) FORMS OF COLLECTIONS (temporal GIS etc)
2)COLLECTED OFFERABILITY (white mythology as screw)
3)INACESSIBLE CARDINALS (DNA and frommations)beyond Integron)
4)GALELIOÕS CLINAMEN IN N E O N TECHNOLOGY
-E-FISH FOURIER TRANSFORMS TRAITS
-MENDELISMS (E^2) (and transcendentally applied uniform association)
5)FORGIVING ABSOLUTE EPISTEMIC SUPREMECY
6)D^2 (SERIES FROM ANY NEOPHENOGENESIS)
7)H^2 DEFINITIONS AND CROIZATÕS INHERITANCE NOT THE POST MODERN CONDITION
in a continuity no matter the particulate underying chemical bonds.

9 Ecosystem Engineering ( water balance calculation under locomotions)

10 Empirical Sentence Standard

11 Philosophy of Vicariant Time - Reducing Provine's two Wright Landcapes to one by supplementing perversions turning Gibbs into more MacroThermodynamcis through irreversibilities of behaviorally insignificant energetically behaviors quantities any kind pigen holeable to orthogenesis of DIFFERENT steady morions no matter the orthoselection arguable between Fisher and Wright as minimum pressure (even in non-linear and non-equilibrium regimes) is not SMALL CONTINIOUS EFFECTS d e f i n ition ally as catastrophes could punctuate this space that sees more chemsity where I READ physics

12 Spatial Evolution

13 Nano-Ecology (technology)

14- Deviations from Maxwell's sphere (the case of e-fish) no matter the fractal # mediation of Pascal - Chinese projection in or of any ideal plane through changes at least in heterogenous equilibira (dissipative or not) and various technical means to achieve OTHER than subtraction of passage beyond infinite division (Feynamn's Maxwell etc) and conditions to terminate Provines critcism of Wright (paramters for isolation by distance etc) with transpiration, ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny becasue browninan motion is not mututally reciprocally independent of gravity fall and other virial/repulsion (action at a distance sets) in every Darwinization of Gladyshev's call -- future of all neo-darwinisms in the larger mendel ratio (mendelism(s)) controversy kept up by creationists especially over the correlation but not because still it is highly plausible until neophenogeneis be judged on this expanded physical description extension basis.

15 XeX- How the deduction happens. Criticism of Quine. An economics for theoretical biology of the symbol scriptures.

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I must say, Brad, that was fascinating. I'm not sure I agree.
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I had a post on CHAPTER N9ne above but due to technical difficulties it will have to wait till GOD WILLING, later. I guess I will put it in here. You may then be in a position to agree or disagree. It is however likely that you will need to see what topographic leveling ACTUALLY rather than propositionally does (would do). This post will take into account of "continental drift" which I have manged to avoid pretty much in most of my posts to date. Ecosystem Engineering could reveal that Einstein in the relation of special and general relativity by allowing (hypothetically) an arbitrary man-chosen co-ordinate frame progressed neo-darwininsm WITHOUT concomittant progress in neo-mendelisms that without the science of the ordinate choice (next mutant etc) Creationist critics still win the popular vote. As you know the philosophy is beyond what is or is not popular. It may be that with an inertial system it is better to suffer with Einstien IN THE FLESH than spirtualize with A R Wallace but that you may feel free to disagree with. Did you read "When Christians Roamed The Earth?"
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Robin, do you think you could give us a summary of it?
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Brad's essay was about evolution, it seems to me.
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It may be about infinite divisions OR in bashing logical empricism in some sense it may ONLY be about consrutive infinites which Wolfram has offered us the tool of. For me, BEFORE S. Wolfram was I was reading about the tension in Galielo of Muslim and Greek origins. I do not know if the Chinese already "thought" this. Ecosystem Engineering is the "Doable" part where I am attempting "contra"Muller not to use genetic engineering in th myopic protocol of crop enhancemnet but rather turing agricuture into biomass productivity. One chooses WHERE one wants to live but the place determines what one will eat. There will be NO resturants in my future. We need to manage life globally and not merely our traditions. Whatever the niche supports that's what is bioamassed. If you can only support a plague of flies, grasshoppers, frogs or fireflies, that is what you will eat. NO MORE LUxuray of spice either, boys and girls. Indigneous knoweldge is not for export but to mars base etc.

Here is what I promised. I know it is rather raw.Ecosystem engineering is a creative discipline (not covered in current biological teachings) validating or not that (which is taught)presumed by evolutionary theory this mutational (prior compensation) origin there-while ALL mendelizing gene-differences orient from mutations. It contributes to advancing biology becasue it can seperate reservations, preserves, and conservation (TRANSPARENTLY) even if sustainability is not object.(It should be. but that is me>).

However somce no TIME is presupposed short of physical lines of force, bioentropisms can bring (even in millions of years content) contact (centromere dynamics) some other way than chromosome disjunction areally co-extensive (vicariance vs chance dispersal) sets enable re-presentation of electronically by freeing 6DOF-FourierPlanesAssociation etc. with actual correlations in the database absolutes metadated into existence presenting actual topology (any other math) in the same topography but different biogeography as the "bio" is put back in "geography" when nanoecology and nanotechnology do not work against each other per environs.

Atomic Science is not contrary this position but affords a means of enumerating the gene EITHER by cardinals (other discrete materiality) or ordinals (breakage potentials) B U T both apporaches are NOT true, however they are not mutually exclusive only undecidable in so far as any reduction is progressed. Computer Science has yet to specify how logic can be carried by different physico-chemical universalities. The genotype-phenotype distinction is discriminatory and actually is rejectable directorily should the latter appear fact finding found not unfounded in truth.

This understanding is extremely important as when Huxley (Evolution: THE MODERN SYNTHESISp64) attempts to generalize AMONG (which as I said above CAN NOT BE BOTH in gene science))gene nature and gene expression may have only the "thermophene" as a denotable reality in the particular truth THAT expressed. The point is that indeed the math distinciton of cardinal and ordinal CAN assist in a cognizable reference to a difference between gene nature and gene expression (the lipid/water barrier is not the mutation as temperature template) the pure math may not be logical as to relation of math to reality (which Wolfram has moved contra tradition completely away from..)in the spirit needed to find the phsyco-chemcial logic carriers of the genetic information which is in this connotation also very questionable. It would be preferable in genomics+protenomics=bioinformatics to be only about the nature of the gene no matter the expression biodiversity informatic wise. But apparently people do not have a clear distinciton of techno-bio and bio-tech. My notion of mutation need not hold to Huxley's primary and secondary for Wolfram's phyiscs could supervene but I doubt it. So rather than in my frame let's see if Harvard will be able to keep up.

Ecosystem Engineering
relying on Lewontin's motto "the organism constructs the environment" (of course if one understood the imposition that lack of math in biology caused beacuse of virtual reality this would never have been needed ...)

Ecosystem engineering can be based from the former paraphrase into a linear flow of biomasss from the Ocean into the Mountains. In Ecosystem Engineering the goal is to "turn" water and soil into life figureatively speaking By turning water and soil it is projected to engineer the y value of this curve
in the
high x range
to a larger
number by
decreasing
the altitude topographists have to work with.
Conceptually, this is the notion assented to that affirming environment resistence by some without asailing Mononds counter Newton-Kepler motivation such formula equating in letters P = BP-ER where the spelling connotes such words as disease, predation, lack of suitable habitat,failure of food supply, shortange of water, Leibig's law of the minimum, etc. And it would denote the ability to dismiss the premise of Malthus by increasingly being able should the discipline continuw to show how the exponential nature of some reproductive continuum can be enhanced by the given ecosystem on Earth or off.
In higher elevations locate relatively barren areas to which the power of exisitng water flow (towards the ocean) can with a waterwheel typw system deposit water in these areas while doing so it must be evaluated that organisms are not being significantly displaced. GPS/GLASNOSS could facilite this.
Weanwhile the Removed Earth is transported to barren regions not under proactive ecosystem engineering (Deserts, Ice Sheets, etc.) and ecological positioning is accomplishable to adjust those gross changes which so act as to level the topography over time for which the process must be insured against positions biologically sustainable that compenstate for Freshwater loss downstream by reproductive multiplication upstream. This Flow in biomass of the lost running water content to the reverse engineering must be managed.
The chemical account for this reengineering program beginsing in the brackISH habitat and this field is where the focus of environmental protection will occurr. GPS/GLOSNASS will be integral to maintaing the physicality of this proposed model to harness biodiversity and institutialize the flow based biological perspective beyond the continuum imagined by Monod and scripted by Adams as factor subarial vs submarine.
Thus through education the higher elevation focus on organisms will interpret to focus on environs and the lower elevation foucs on the evironment will terminate the Mathematical Malthusian interst in the discrete existence of ecosystem engineering attributing its late existence in biology to the dispute between Monod types and Crick Types on the historical mistake that thought in equilibrium between genetics and physics for the simple means of chemically moitoring the environmental protection "endemics".
The idea in ecosystem engineering is to gain intelligence that will enable informed decisions to increase the maximum supportable population resouce base by capitulating non-human populations to reproduce and fill A Void man-made to maintain a water balance. This is contrary to the correct thinking that attempts human population control by enforcement.
Should ecosystem engineering go from an experimental system to an economically useful situation human population control (sic!) may be dictated by business an dlater social removal to the harsher environments so as to maximize biodiversity and crop yields for a population that may wish to grow as much as can be naturally supported
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Should waterbalance Ecosystem Engineering proove successful :: The details of topography leveling may be marshalled to increase productivity by sustaining some dimininshing eutrophic connectabilites that would other wise become dry land.
If sufficient population growth is sustainable circulation may be maintained by preventing lakes from reaching the point that thermoclines never form but this would likely require translation of oceanic forms in addition to brackish species traveling into freshwater conditions. Can Dugongs move farther inland?
The confidence in ecosystem engineering may seem some what paradoxical becasue it may appear to the intiate that space or discontinuity is being sought to be bridge by mass removal but the idea behind this engineering discipline is something like Liebigs Law of the Minimuym that once a minimal need is reached some other factor becomes limiting.
Ecosystem engineering attempts to access this higher level connectivity derivatively to encourage biomass movement following mental human physical removal of a quantity of matter. Chemistry will not be enabled until after this effort. Futhermore on hypothesis it may be discoverable different trajectories in which elements are isolated in different places. Concepts such as niche become outdated and a more dynamic intraaction with the outdoors becomes socially conscious.

Einstein's principle of relativity (Feynman The Character of Physical Law p63-4 "I would now like to describe to you an argument, fundamentally due to Einstein, which indicates that if anything is conserved- and in this case I apply it to charge- it must be conserved locally. This argument relies on one thing, that if two fellows are passing each other in space ships, the question of which guy is doing the moving and which one is standing still cannot be resolved by any experiment. That is called the principle of relativity, that uniform motion in a straight line is relative, and that..." may not apply to biological change for the experiment having been already carried out by nautre of time of speciation it remains only for us to orthoganilize the data that is relatively striaght otherwise permitting the parrellel database to be created in relation as well as the number of genes involved. This problem of relativity would be the reason that both I was committed to mental hospital and D' Arcy Thompson's work never caught on. Morphometrics IS NOT the discipline (which I was committed to use naviely as an undergraduate) able to seperate this relation acutally because it would be catastrophe sets (statisically - thus the Cornell Administration missed this fact and permitted in involutary commitment agaisnt the advise of science)that constrain in the experiment if not a more intricate pure math. Metrics plus homology even of the most generous are not enough to seperate perfect pitch and relative pitch and yet this problem is not solvabale as a sound modality at all. I do not yet know what e=mc^2 has to do with biology if at all. It may be that this helps to determine the quality of mutations that quantitively are deletrious and hence part of the evolution of dominance but this is a balding tire or head.

IF A VIRUS IS AN ABOSLUTE CHARGE CARRIER FEYNAM & EINSTEIN could be mistaken.

aGAIN, gaining ground,(I had thought that bio-motions must be a subset of as far as test of trajectories computable under the speed of light but if a mutation is this speed and these changes can affect the interpretaion of molecular dissocation it is not randomness but actual communites that is connoted while the uniform (behavior categorizations, biogeographic homologies etc) denotation found without Einstein's claim (whether or not as far to conservation relativity is strictly true (would come out in the catastrophe set # of dimensions) that no man made experiment reveals which of two motions is moving (there is a differnce between a velocity and the vector represenation of the same)
may not ( I say "may not" for this idea could be misplaced but if correctable it informs much of the reason that no general biological theory (as Wolfram pointed out) has emerged (If actual right Wolfram's idea beyond algorithimic universality may be significantly affected beyond the range of chemcial synthesis that is the province of biology. Just because WOlfram could not imagine a total optimization does not mean one does not exist physically.)))))) strictly apply to biological change and ecosystem engineering if anthropologically sanctioned (and I am not calling for this until the ideas herein are well spaced out. Biology brings to Culture some additional problems that prior engineering never saw. These may not be moral but economic yet economics under the current international associations is no guaranetee even with the best intentions of not creating war. This does not mean that we should hedge the future by preventing the ideas from coming up for extaBiblically etc other stuff can by lack of appearence take place.)could reveal what at least is false if no a priori development procures.


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Nice one Brad!

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IF A VIRUS IS AN ABOSLUTE CHARGE CARRIER FEYNAM & EINSTEIN could be mistaken.

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Without prejudice to any quantum exposition of viruses consider:

A proposal for funds to incorporate a wetlands extension company is based on rulings, when, there is an underlying rule which compels us to observe this, order, of perceptions, that there is an order of perceiving the wetland (what species to be looked for before others) rather than a random order of surveying the plot determined by a clock wise or counter clock wise spiral expanding the extent of the wetland as shown from measurements made on site so as to minimize the effect of the observer on the environment.; and firmly establish in cohesive characters those items on private property being the environement or with an affinity to such that like soil are fluid due to detachment and have been in a state of deprivation of their natural cohesive characteristics so as to determine what part of the ecology is a propreitary right of the property owner similar to underlying geological strucures avoiding the need of biological and geological concordance not detached. In wetlands competition concurs results in two competeing rights of transport; the right of water to flow and cause trasportation and the right of lateral support: flowing water not at natural cohesive characteristics changes the directions of lateral support but concommittantly diminishes the need for lateral support however it doesn't diminish what at all those characteristics naturally ecologically cohesive needing the precendent support have.
Sartre asks which is the more useful aim. the general one of fighting in and for the whole community, or the precise aim of helping one particular person to live? Who can give an ansser to that a priori? The Kantian ethic- never regard another as a means but always as an end; cyclical and linear ethics, a cricle of lawyers learning ethics of lawering practiced.
This is the level of selection question and depends on the extent that resemblence has become causal. If resemblence has reached a very high instantiation in cause and effect then one can indeed aim for the whole community but before this occurrs the aim of one particular person is more impelling.
The odd nature of this understanding is that while it fullfills Sartre's (existentialism and humaninsm) conception of essense coming before existence what he reacts against it does not think such before existence. Once existence is realized then essence is THOUGHT before existence event, so that while the existence historically proeceeds the essence. The essence is understandably prior to the pont of phenomenological event. The reason it must be this way and not an uncompromising existence prior to essence is that al speciation does not occur via variations.
So one can expect the delimitations of development in evolution distinguishing recapitulating and variation intitatied speciation as the distinction of Christian and non-Christian exitentialist, deos GOD Existentialist imply at least some recapitulatory speciation that does not yet result in essence prior to existence because Christian Existentialists dont say anything about the contiguity in space-time of one existence reserving in worship from orthodox where spirit is moved in physical space and time cause and effect to another service so that in biospeciation the essence of (one Wallace speciation areises continguous to an affinity) the prior species with the existence of the latter or VICE VERSA trying words Vermont (Article XXIV 1913) "uudges""justice""judge""justices"
Comparing methodologically a lateral support variable and water to flow variable, the deal under rapid reciprocal adjustment of two variablkes... One Par is to determine or treat both variables in a treatment determination or determinate treating of auxiliary hypothetical variables and as all the predicates of I Kant illustrated by [suppy curve; demand curve, x-y] thus Oranismic Transportation/Transrestion: though whole length possible extension of (a) introducing any removed higher than insect population.
We seem to have a natural tendency to think that since this is a new system and we have planted vegetation, we also need to introduce the kinds of wildlife and fish that we wish to have in the system. However introduction should only be seriously considered after competition is on the insect level. The establishment of this level is possible through careful evaluation of factors affecting the natural methods of surface exposure (those gained or increased by living communitites or envirnonmental meteorological effects from the artifically created changed water flow (location(s))) via bacterial growth (Lotka-Voltera modeling between virus and bacteria maintained) and protozoan increase and the connection of this acceleeration (measured by total population counts) to statistically significant retardation growth (due to migration and or changes in food traingle due to migration or dispersal)(through forest gaps or non-wetlands) wetlands where not another region is n?ot classified juxtaposing types and ecologically meaningfully distances where distance is parameterized by effect of non-wetland-wetland territiories on biological distance or space (space, pheotype, geneotype {triangle}dimension.... to have a man base to study asteriod eccentricites...

Baterial and algae growth begins on the exposed surface for potential food for protozoan and hence insect increasing competition into suitable homes imposed is calculationally connected to the amount of surface. Calculate this relationship before animals from nearby wetlands discover new habitats. This calculation will afford the strategic placing of deliberate introductions to take the entire increasing population grwoth in the direction of a different watershed than would occurr due to the local shifting balance theory/vector max-min/imization flow of least resistence directions for directing ecosystem expansion not mere extention (due to heritable in protozoans for instance).

So for Expansion beyond extension the engineerable parameters of habitiats and niches must be accurately explored through this trophic level by level protocol; the hanbitat thus includes all surfaces of lower level trophic continguities of the particular food or energy chain as a whole part of the obvious address, home, dwelling place, physical location providing cover or shelter and palces where food water and mates can be cross-referenced of the organism or specific population underconsideration. This is not what is typically meant by typical adaptation pars of grasslands, marshes, forests, deserts, and subdivisions of each account in the area or territory of this level through level trophic summing equation but must also include all the professions of resemblence within the contiguity described, the why energy must be obtained in the particular way it is being obtained at the particular points of location composing said line and the age or magnitude of the energy flow necessary to the entire ecologically lineage/food chain linked to biogeochemical flows composing the 3-D niche of a division in the genotypes participating + niche in this is the no other than a biologically interesting observation perception from personal identity.

The trophic levels (plants are producers, herbivores are primary consumers), and perhaps carnivores (secondary consumers), ominvores feed on plants (primary consumers), and perhaps carnivores (secondary consumers) decomposers (ianvertebrates, bacteria and fungi) degrade organic material and finally others (parasites,
(i got tired of typing)


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Message 9 of 69 (186627)
02-18-2005 7:11 PM
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12-01-2002 7:09 PM


lets just say there is no longer any difference between Georgi Gladsyhev's "paper" and mine.
formal announcement from Russia
This page contains notes I made BEFORE he had contacted me. I was nervous that my marginal notes might not be true. That is no longer in question by me anymore. There is heterogeneity.


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Message 10 of 69 (186660)
02-18-2005 10:31 PM
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10-30-2002 10:17 AM


If anyone here speaks Brad please provide us with a translation.
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Message 11 of 69 (186774)
02-19-2005 1:24 PM
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Translation?

Here's about the most concise one I can manage:

I am a lunatic. I don't take my medicine. I think angular momentum has something to do with DNA. I think baraminology is scientific. I think girls are scary. Please help me. I am needy.


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Message 12 of 69 (186779)
02-19-2005 1:55 PM
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and I'm supposed to take that as a positive comment? I have two children so it cant be that girls are scary to me. Yeah you might equivocate on that at one, but two WITH THE SAME woman? You would have been better off without the last three sentences.

I will start by saying that it is trivial to associate the genetic number of Mendel to the total set of natural numbers. I will use the equivocalness of Mendel’s use of words “parent” and “hybrid” to EXIST in this set (by definition) and I find the baramin (that kind which can only exist to itself) to BE Mendel’s developmental binomial as van de Waerden decomposition of the natural numbers in to a finite number of classes as divided by the subsets of natural numbers on finding the granted “arbitrarily long arithemetic progression”. In other words what makes it necessary that kinds can only reproduce AFteR their kind is a result of the causality of the “aribitrarily long arithemetic progression” on the other number of finite subsets of the classed total list of natural numbers.

That is what is missing from current evoltutionary theory and one can read in the literature evolutionists not appreciating the the difference made in the creationist literature as to whether the after”” referred to God or the Kinds.
“A famous theoremof van der Waerden (Nieuw Arch. F. Wisk. 15 (1927) 212-6) asserts that, if the natural numbers are subdivided into a finite number of classes ( in any manner whatsoever), at least one of these classes contains arbitrarily long arithemetic progressions. This result suggests many other interesting questions, most of which have only been partially answered.” In SEQUENCES VOL I 1966 by Halberstam and Roth: Oxford at the Clarendon Press

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Message 13 of 69 (187015)
02-20-2005 3:06 PM
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02-19-2005 1:55 PM


You've reproduced????
quote:
You would have been better off without the last three sentences.

I see, so these are OK:

quote:
I am a lunatic. I don't take my medicine. I think angular momentum has something to do with DNA. I think baraminology is scientific

quote:
I will start by saying that it is trivial to associate the genetic number of Mendel to the total set of natural numbers.

What is the "genetic number of Mendel"?
quote:

I will use the equivocalness of Mendel’s use of words “parent” and “hybrid” to EXIST in this set (by definition) and I find the baramin (that kind which can only exist to itself) to BE Mendel’s developmental binomial as van de Waerden decomposition of the natural numbers in to a finite number of classes as divided by the subsets of natural numbers on finding the granted “arbitrarily long arithemetic progression”. In other words what makes it necessary that kinds can only reproduce AFteR their kind is a result of the causality of the “aribitrarily long arithemetic progression” on the other number of finite subsets of the classed total list of natural numbers.

Ah, well, why did n't you say that before? That makes perfect sense now!

quote:

That is what is missing from current evoltutionary theory and one can read in the literature evolutionists not appreciating the the difference made in the creationist literature as to whether the after”” referred to God or the Kinds.


Silly evolutionists...

quote:

“A famous theoremof van der Waerden (Nieuw Arch. F. Wisk. 15 (1927) 212-6) asserts that, if the natural numbers are subdivided into a finite number of classes ( in any manner whatsoever), at least one of these classes contains arbitrarily long arithemetic progressions. This result suggests many other interesting questions, most of which have only been partially answered.” In SEQUENCES VOL I 1966 by Halberstam and Roth: Oxford at the Clarendon Press

And numbers pertain to biological entities how exactly? Does their angular momentum diffuse their quantum positive shift in space-time? Or does the weak nuclear force perturb their superegos substantively such that their force vector of deceleration is supplanted by the quark-Jipsom supernumerary theory of red-shifting pathos and the english language derivative thereof?


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Message 14 of 69 (187016)
02-20-2005 3:09 PM
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You are not contributing
Let's stop the person comments like references to medicine or sanity immediately.

And I also expect an appology to BRAD in your very next post.

PERIOD!!!


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Message 15 of 69 (187017)
02-20-2005 3:15 PM
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Brad - please take this in the spirit that it is intended. While I never really have much of a clue what you are on about (mainly to my lack of knowledge in this area), I do have a wonderful time trying to work it and looking up some of the terms and terminology that you use.
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