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Charles Munroe
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Message 1 of 7 (76400)
01-03-2004 3:39 PM


Some time ago I sent e-mail to about 16 Creationist websites asking a simple question. To date I have received replies, in one form or another, from about half.
The question : "How much effort and time have you devoted to the possibility that the story of creation in Genesis is discribing Evolution and that there is no controversy?"
The typical answer : "We never even considered it, why it is so obvious."
Do you get the feeling that the controversy between Evolution and Creationism is the product of arrogance?

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Brian
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Message 2 of 7 (76403)
01-03-2004 3:53 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Charles Munroe
01-03-2004 3:39 PM


Hi,
The controversy is because of fear and ignorance. It is the same between 'biblical archaeology' and real archaeology, the biblical guys cannot approach tried and tested archaeological data because deep down they know that real archaeological data destroys their fantasies.
Brian.
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Message 3 of 7 (76411)
01-03-2004 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Brian
01-03-2004 3:53 PM


"The ocntroversy is because of fear and ignorance. It is the same between 'biblical archaeology' and real archaeology, the biblical guys cannot approach archaeological data in a tried and tested archaeological because deep down they know that real archaeological data destroys their fantasies."
--Or because they 'know' that the 'real archeological data' will not be detrimental to 'biblical archaeology' and would be a waist of time.
Cheers,
-Chris Grose
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sidelined
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Message 4 of 7 (76472)
01-04-2004 12:22 PM
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01-03-2004 4:55 PM


TC
You make this statement.
--Or because they 'know' that the 'real archeological data' will not be detrimental to 'biblical archaeology' and would be a waist of time.
Please explain your position here.

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Brian
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Message 5 of 7 (76488)
01-04-2004 1:58 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by TrueCreation
01-03-2004 4:55 PM


Hi,
Or because they 'know' that the 'real archeological data' will not be detrimental to 'biblical archaeology' and would be a waist of time.
This would be covered by the 'ignorance' category.
I understand what you are saying TC, but to 'know' something without examining it, whether you think there is any point in checking the data or not, is to base your conclusions on ignorance of the subject.
I personally wouldn't dream of rejecting an archaeological hypothesis from a Bible believer just because it comes from a Bible believer, I would reject or accept it on its own merits.
People seem to forget that when 'biblical archaeology' began in Palestine in the late 19th century, the 'archaeologists' were all bible believing Christians and Jews, they saw their finds as confirming the Bible's version of historical events of the ancient near east.
However, one at a time these people changed their opinions because of the data that they recovered. William Albright is the all time giant of Biblical archaeology, he was so disturbed by the archaeological data whilst trying to support the Bible's version of the Exodus and Conquest that he ended up claiming that there were in fact two Exoduses, it was the ONLY way that he could harmonise the contradictory evidence in the archaeological data.
What gets me is that these pro-bible archaeologists, great experts in their field had to change their minds when faced with the data that they themselves uncovered and interpreted.
I am not even asking a Bible believer to read the minimalists interpretation of the data, read the maximalists as well, they have all concluded that the Bible's version of these epic events needs to be reinterpreted.
Anyne who thinks that archaeology fully supports the Bible is certainly ignorant of the available information.
Brian.
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JonF
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Message 6 of 7 (76517)
01-04-2004 5:33 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by sidelined
01-04-2004 12:22 PM


Given the quote marks he used, it's possible that he's not espousing the position; he may just be reporting it.

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Message 7 of 7 (76577)
01-05-2004 12:28 AM


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