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Author Topic:   Satan's Motivations
Ender
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Message 1 of 4 (342379)
08-22-2006 12:23 PM


Why would a Satan do what he did?
Some basic assumptions that this question makes are as follows:
God exists.
Satan exists.
The information we get on Satan comes from the Bible.
The Bible says the following of Satan:
Satan is a being with a personality and motivations.
Satan is the chief "adversary" of God.
(For Biblical references of the above see Page not found – New Life Community Church)
Whether or not we accept these things (or the Bible)as absolutely true or not, we can still debate Satan's motivations. In other words this forum isn't for posts like: "well he doesn't exist so all of this is moot". Whether or not he, or God, exists (and I am not taking a position on this) the character of Satan is still interesting and can be debated just like we could debate Jean Valjean in Les Misérables (Les Misrables - Wikipedia).
So with those ground rules I would like to discuss why a very powerful and intelligent creature would do something that doesn't seem to make any sense:
1)Satan rebelled against an all-powerful all-knowing God that could easily destroy him.
2)Satan's reason for this seemed to be so that he could be worshipped by humans (or at least keep humans from worshipping God), even though that would in no way invalidate point (1).
3)Satan poors all of his energy into tricking/tormenting humans into rebelling against God even though this in now way benefits him.
4)No creature that is not insane acts against its own self interest. Murderers murder either because it benefits them somehow or because they are psychopathic. If Satan was a perfect angel, and rebelling against God didn't benefit him at all, does that mean he was a psychopathic angel (as created)?
5)Satan converted a lot of angels to his side. How? What could he offer them that was better than what they had? Do they worship him like a God? Do they all have suicidal tendencies or do they somehow think that God would not destroy them?
I eagerly await your thoughts...
(Possibly the Faith and Belief forum)

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Message 2 of 4 (342790)
08-23-2006 3:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ender
08-22-2006 12:23 PM


One mans Satan is another mans president...
Hello, Ender..and welcome to EvC. Allow me to address a few of my concerns with your post.
Ender writes:
... I would like to discuss why a very powerful and intelligent creature would do something that doesn't seem to make any sense.....
Whether or not we accept these things (or the Bible)as absolutely true or not, we can still debate Satan's motivations.
I looked at your link. Do you want to assume for the purpose of this argument that Satan is as portrayed at your link?
Edited by AdminPhat, : clarification

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Ender
Junior Member (Idle past 6302 days)
Posts: 18
From: Covington, Georgia
Joined: 08-04-2006


Message 3 of 4 (342863)
08-23-2006 10:10 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminPhat
08-23-2006 3:33 PM


Re: One mans Satan is another mans president...
I understand that no one is going to agree on what exactly Satan's attributes would be so I tried to find a site that had a lot of references to the bible to back up what they said.
For the purposes of the debate I think that it serves as a good starting point.
I like the subtitle by the way.

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08-25-2006 5:18 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by Ender
08-23-2006 10:10 PM


Why does Satan act the way he does?..
There is currently a similar topic as the one you are proposing.
It is at this link and is called "What If Satan Reformed?"
Maybe you can chime in with a few comments at that topic or...if you still want to have your topic promoted, revise it and get back to me within a week.


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