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Will Seamus Ennis
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07-08-2009 9:26 PM


One night, we had a visitor at the Affinity Circle at our center who read some poetry about the creation of good and evil, light and darkness. When the young poet was through, he asked for some feedback, and in one of those 'inspirational moments' I responded. "My favorite creation story only has three words:
...It's still happening."
Even though I never saw the young man again, the words have had significant impact on me and my views.
It's still happening.
There is creation happening right this second. Even in the few seconds that you’ve been reading this, there have been thousands of new cells created in your body, all following a pattern written in DNA. Oxygen has been transformed into energy within you, creating electrical impulses that have allowed you to read and understand the words written here. New stars are coming together, electron energy patterns in atoms are shifting depending on their energetic environment. New bacterial species are evolving out of old patterns of life.
Creation is happening within the minds and experiences of humans as well. New music is being written and recorded. New products and processes are being discovered. New art is being dreamed in oil, acrylic, stone and video.
What does it mean that creation is still happening? It means that, as conscious beings, we are part of it, that the intelligence inherent within us is part of the creative process and that, humanity aside, there is a nature of creation that carries on, even when we turn our backs.
There are two things that we cannot deny from the observable universe: 1) that there is some level of intelligence observable even in the smallest particles and 2) that there is an inherent creative impulse that increases as consciousness increases.
I can observe an inherent intelligence within all things, enough intelligence and energy in order to BE that thing. There is exactly the necessary amount of intelligence within an aluminum atom for it to BE that atom and not a helium atom. That intelligence would be exactly the same in an aluminum atom on the other side of the galaxy as it is in the soda can I’m drinking from. It would react the same to temperature changes, to pressures and to combinations with oxygen as the atom in my soda can.
And such a minute piece of atomic intelligence plays a part in the creation and recreation of the Universal experience.
I see this as a Universally Distributed Intelligence expressing as this manifest reality. I personally believe and know this intelligence as God, who for me is not the Tinkerer out there someplace in the sky who went AWOL after 6 days of work. I see this Creative Process as more real, more observable and more important than any story written for an adolescent human understanding.
For me the most powerful six words in the Bible, which explain more that all of Genesis, are these: Behold, I make all things new.
This Creative Process is evolution in expression, the manifestation of continued response to new environments and new stimuli, in nature and in the human experience.
The ultimate question therefore becomes, not what happened thousands or billions of years ago, but what is happening now? How are we, as conscious beings, creating our own world? What stimuli are we responding to? What are we creating, as part of the eternal process?
Because, for me, creation is still happening, and we each are part of it

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Message 2 of 4 (514585)
07-09-2009 6:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Will Seamus Ennis
07-08-2009 9:26 PM


This reads more like a statement of belief than a topic proposal for the creation/evolution debate. Some parts of your position sound somewhat similar to Intelligent Design, but asking "How we as intelligent beings are creating our own world?" is something completely different. Can you edit your proposal to make more clear what it is you would like to discuss and how it ties in to some aspect of the creation/evolution debate? If so, post a note here when you're done and I'll take another look.
Minor nit: you left out the double spacing between paragraphs in the latter part of your post.
Edited by Admin, : Grammar.

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Will Seamus Ennis
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From: Huntsville, AL
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Message 3 of 4 (515238)
07-16-2009 2:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Admin
07-09-2009 6:21 AM


re-done, let me know what you think.
Another view of creation
One night, we had a visitor at the Affinity Circle at our center who read some poetry about the creation of good and evil, light and darkness. When the young poet was through, he asked for some feedback, and in one of those 'inspirational moments' I responded. "My favorite creation story only has three words:
...It's still happening."
Even though I never saw the young man again, the words have had significant impact on me and my views.
It's still happening. Creation is a PROCESS, not a single act. This process, where intelligence creates more of itself, is a natural expression of itself. It is, in fact, an observable characteristic of intelligence, part of the very definition of intelligence. And we cannot separate intelligence from its creative process.
And the process continues. With every tick of an atomic clock, the Universe is a new expression.
Even in the few seconds that you’ve been reading this, there have been thousands of new cells created in your body. This is intelligence —written as DNA codewithin each of us expressing naturally. Oxygen has been transformed into energy within you, creating electrical impulses that have allowed you to read and understand the words written here. New stars are coming together, electron energy patterns in atoms are shifting depending on their energetic environment. New bacterial species are evolving out of old patterns of life.
Creation is happening within the minds and experiences of humans as well. New music is being written and recorded. New products and processes are being discovered. New art is being dreamed in oil, acrylic, stone and video.
What does it mean that creation is still happening? It means that, as conscious beings, we are part of it. The intelligence inherent within us is part of the creative process.
There are two things that we cannot deny from the observable universe:
1) that there is some level of intelligence observable even in the smallest particles and
2) that there is an inherent creative impulse that increases as consciousness increases.
This Universally Distributed Intelligence expresses as this manifest reality. The pattern of Intelligence, consistently expressing itself, is what we see AND is the act of seeing it at the same time.
This view is not meant to step into the fray between creationists and science, but is a bridge between the two. This is not the pseudoscience of Intelligent Design, or the religion of science, but is the logical, observable center point, where we can SEE Intelligence at work in this moment, everywhere we look.
(I personally believe in God, but not as the Tinkerer out there someplace in the sky who went AWOL after 6 days of work. I personally believe in this observable Creative Process, as a Principle that works now, as it always has. This eternal Principle, eternally expressing, is Life, is Love, is Intelligence and Beauty, which I might append as God but it is so much more than any story written for an adolescent human understanding.)
This Creative Process is evolution in expression, the manifestation of continued response to new environments and new stimuli, in nature and in the human experience.
The ultimate question therefore becomes, not what happened thousands or billions of years ago, but what is happening now? Since I cannot separate myself from the intelligence within and all around me, what part am I playing in this continuous process, as a conscious being? As a center of some intelligence in the Universe that itself is Intelligent, what am I creating?
The Creative Process continues.

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07-16-2009 10:09 PM


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