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les benton
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Message 1 of 8 (190054)
03-04-2005 1:09 PM


A very major mistake has been made about the Ark of the Covenant.
The ark of the covenant was Noah's ark.
The "covenant" is called the Rainbow Covenant. A rainbow is an "arc"(h).
When the waters receded God made Noah a covenant when he saw a rain(bow).
God said; that he would never again destroy man with "water". Modern Christian copouts to that agreement, when compared with "Armegeddon" say: God did not say that he would not destroy man at all. He said with "water". What a coverup. What a copout.
The Ark of the Covenant was Noah's Ark. A little box with God trapped inside does not exist.

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Message 2 of 8 (190171)
03-05-2005 11:36 AM
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03-04-2005 1:09 PM


Not to begin the debate before the debate even begins, but I wanted to be sure you're prepared to defend this claim before I release this topic. How do you explain the following references to the ark of the covenant, which appear to refer to it in such a way as to make interpreting them as references to Noah's Ark impossible:
  • Numbers 10:33:
    And they departed from the mount of the LORD three days’ journey: and the ark of the covenant of the LORD went before them in the three days’ journey, to search out a resting place for them.
  • Numbers 14:44:
    But they presumed to go up unto the hill top: nevertheless the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and Moses, departed not out of the camp.
  • Deuteronomy 10:8:
    At that time the LORD separated the tribe of Levi, to bear the ark of the covenant of the LORD, to stand before the LORD to minister unto him, and to bless in his name, unto this day.
  • Deuteronomy 31:9:
    And Moses wrote this law, and delivered it unto the priests the sons of Levi, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and unto all the elders of Israel.
  • Deuteronomy 31:25-26:
    That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, "Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee."
  • Josua 3:3-6:
    And they commanded the people, saying, When ye see the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, and the priests the Levites bearing it, then ye shall remove from your place, and go after it. Yet there shall be a space between you and it, about two thousand cubits by measure: come not near unto it, that ye may know the way by which ye must go: for ye have not passed this way heretofore. And Joshua said unto the people, Sanctify yourselves: for to morrow the LORD will do wonders among you. And Joshua spake unto the priests, saying, Take up the ark of the covenant, and pass over before the people. And they took up the ark of the covenant, and went before the people.
And so forth in many other passages.

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Message 3 of 8 (190211)
03-05-2005 1:43 PM


Ark of the Covenant
The people who wrote the scriptures that you site did not know what the arc was. The arc was the rainbow "of the covenant". Or they were trying to glorify themselves as ther possessor of the arc.

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03-05-2005 2:00 PM
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Re: Ark of the Covenant
What I'm trying to find out, before I'll release the topic, is whether you can offer any evidence and/or reasoned argumentation in support of your views.

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Message 5 of 8 (190243)
03-05-2005 7:07 PM
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03-05-2005 2:00 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
I fail to have the imagination to believe that God is locked up in a little box and someone lost Him. So there must be an answer.
Answers start with the right questions.
Sprculation is the beginning of all discovery of knowledge. Without speculation no one would explore anything.
My comment are specu;ation based on similiarities. You may not find a website that has any of these thoughts. Websites are documentation of knowledge discovered by speculation and the ability of the human mind to create.
There is only knowledge on the internet that started by speculation.
Non-apeculation is non-discovery. I am not interested in hearing talk that has been said a thousand times before.

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Message 6 of 8 (190265)
03-05-2005 9:23 PM
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03-05-2005 7:07 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
EvC Forum is for evidence-based discussion. You may want to choose another discussion board for this topic.

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Message 7 of 8 (241097)
09-07-2005 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by les benton
03-05-2005 7:07 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
The modern story of noah's Ark is myth compiled from misunderstandings.

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Message 8 of 8 (241176)
09-07-2005 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by les benton
09-07-2005 4:52 PM


Re: Ark of the Covenant
As Admin explained, this board is for evidence-based discussion. You haven't yet shown even an understanding of what evidence is.
I'm going to reject this topic. If you're interested in finding out what we mean by evidence-based discussion, I strongly recommend that you read some threads from the Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy Forum.
Thanks.

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