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ikester7579 Inactive Member |
While doing some research on oil. I ran across some numbers that nearly matched to a calculation I worked out.
quote: Then while researching on the web I found this:
quote: And there have been reports of pressures to 30,000 psi. In the making of what's called "quick oil", less pressure is needed, but about the same temp. as what we currently find in the ground.
quote: How long does it take to make the oil?
quote: But because this same person, writing this article, believes in evolution. He also says:
quote: So what do we have so far? World wide flood support: 1) The flood caused 28,000-30,000 psi pressure in 12 plus miles of water (6 miles highest mountain, plus over 6 miles deepest ocean) that it took to flood the earth. 2) We have oil wells that are at pressures from 3,000 to 30,000 psi. These pressures cannot be achieved in a local flood. Then we have support for quick oil: 1) We have a company that makes oil in about 3 hours. Applying 500-1000 degree temps, and only 50 atmospheres to waste matter. 2) We have nature applying 3,000-30,000 psi (up to 2,000 atmospheres), and 400 degrees temps. But yet it takes nature millions of years? Young earth support: Then we have the deal about how much pressure the oil is still under today . How does oil keep such high pressure for millions of years when there are such things as seepage?
quote: How many years have we been sold this bill of goods that oil takes millions of years? But yet this evidence is there for all to see, but yet some refuse to see it? What does God say about those who refuse to see truth? John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate. Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
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ikester7579 Inactive Member |
Then we have the crystalline canopy. Where air pressures were twice what they are now.
quote: What happens to water that is exposed to the absolute zero temps of space? It starts to freeze. Note:I tried to find out how long it takes for a inch of water to freeze on the ocean, or lake. Could not find it.
quote: If you replace the word firmament with atmosphere, or air. You get the meaning of this verse Here God was allowing the frozen water to stay above, the created the atmosphere between what was frozen, and what was not frozen (Let there be firmament in the midst of the waters). And this is confirmed in the next verse.
quote: Water under is the unfrozen water. Waters above is the frozen water that was exposed to the absolute zero of space for at least 24 hours.
quote: Notice the reference "water under heaven". This is referring to the unfrozen water. Where did it go? "One place" is under ground. Because of the canopy, the air pressure of the earth was higher. Some creationist predict that it was twice what we have now. This also explains why there was no rain until Noah's flood. Rain clouds cannot form in high barometric pessures. Which is confirmed here:
quote: The canopy that, surrounded the earth, was being pulled on by the sun. Because of this, it was closer to the earth on the dark side (night), and further from the earth on the light side (day). Because of this, air had to constantly move to compensate. In the morning, as the canopy would be drawn away from the earth's surface. It created a drop in the barometric pressure that allowed water to rise from the ground and water the plants. This wobble action of the canopy acted like a pump of sorts, making sure the plants were watered each morning. As confirmed in this verse:
quote: What else could pull that much water from the ground every morning?
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ikester7579 Inactive Member |
The extra pressure also made the water, that covered the earth, H2O2. One extra oxygen molecule was forced into the water by the extra barometric pressure of the atmosphere. This is one reason why spring water comes out blue. The extra oxygen molecule does this, and also confirms the conditions of the earth before the flood. Because how else would underground water end up with that extra oxygen molecule unless it was on the surface first? For there is no extra oxygen molecules under the ground.
When the canopy fell, the pressure that held the extra molecule of oxygen into the water, was released. Making water what it is today H2O. The canopy was mainly hydrogen. So when it's gas mixed into our atmosphere, the free oxygen from the water combined and water for the flood was made. To flood the earth to the point mentioned in God's word. More free oxygen had to be taken from our atmosphere. Not all the H2O2 was released, and is the reason our springs flow H2O2 blue water. And is the reason we do not have as much oxygen now as we did back then. Where did all this water go from the flood? Enough to fill 30 of our oceans.http://www.ldolphin.org/deepwaters.html Even though the writer of that page above, tries to make it support Old Earth. He cannot explain how all that water got there without boiling off. During the flood, the extreme pressures (28,000-30,000 psi) allowed the water to enter the lava hot mineral discussed on this page, without boiling off. The boiling point of water rises with pressure. There's no telling how high that boiling point was at 28,000-30,000 psi. So when the flood water receded from the face of the earth. it went into that mineral, under extreme pressure, and was locked in there to never use again. When God struck his bow in the clouds, as a covenant between Him and man, to never destroy the earth with water again. Allowing that water to go where it did, makes the point even more clear. You see, to bring up that water again, to flood the earth. Would bring up so much lava with it, it would broil the earth. So the guy who wrote that page, also confirms that we cannot use it. Which confirms the covenant God made, and it shows through this discovery.
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ikester7579 Inactive Member |
The kinetic energy problem:
Evolutionist like to bring up the problem of kinetic energy being produced during the flood. But forget one thing. During the flood, there was no sun light. No light equals no heat source. So to keep the earth warm like the sun, how much kinetic energy would you need?
quote: And because heavy rain clouds hover closer to the earth, the travel distance and speed are effected. Which also effects the actual kinetic energy.
quote: So the kinetic energy produced by the rain would have to exceed the energy of the sun to broil the earth, as evolutionists like to claim that it would. So to prove this more to a point, they would have to first prove that this energy exceeded the sun's. I have not seen any evolutionist do this.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2302 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
Hi ikester, welcome to EvC.
Our proposed new topic forum is a place for members to "propose" topics and work with admins to make the topic as clear and as concise as possible. This is not a debate forum, nor is it a forum designed for you to keep adding disparate topics. We like to keep our threads controlled and relating to one area at a time. If you want to discuss on of these issues you bring up, please reply to my message here and tell me which topic you wish to discuss and we can then work on making it a good thread starter. In my signature box you will find many links that our new members find helpful, please pay particular attention to our Forum Guidelines, and again welcome to EvC. AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
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ikester7579 Inactive Member |
Disparate posts? I take it this forum does not like YEC's. I'll go some place else.
Thanks.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2302 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
Actually ikester, nothing I said seems to suggest that we “do not like YEC’s.” Your first post discusses oil production and pressure relative to the great flood. This is a Geology and The Great Flood topic.
Posts 2 and 3 seem to both be discussing a canopy that affects air pressure and oxygen molecules in water. This is a separate topic and would not go in the geology forum. Post 4 discusses kinetic energy, sunlight, heat, travel distance and speed. I suggest that you pick one concise topic to discuss at a time and we can work together on getting it promoted. Thank you AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
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