Randman made the following claim in another thread:
Evos have resorted to the courts to silence criticism of their theory. Btw, Dover really settled nothing because the judge, obviously biased, just copied and pasted his ruling complete with typos from evo advocates. It was a sham and is viewed that way by everyone that isn't an evo.
Which is basically the DI party line concerning Dover. Anyone who has read the transcripts and the decision (which I have done more than twice) I don't believe could make this argument in good faith.
Randman seems to flip the situation around when he says, "It was a sham and is viewed that way by everyone that isn't an evo." I understand the situation to be the exact opposite. Pretty much the
only people advocating this idea are those who are ideologically aligned with the DI. There is no better illustration of this than the other attempts to inject ID into the classroom at other districts around the county that tabled their decision because of Dover. If it was universally believed that the decision was "a sham" like randman claims, then why did the other tuck tail and run?
I personally challenge randman to support his contention that anyone who is not an evo views the trial as a sham.
For the rest of the board, I am curious to what you know or don't know about the trial. I posed the question to randman:
I am just curious randman, have you read either the decision or the trial transcripts in its entirety?
Who has read it all? Alternatively, how much have you read?
I also asked him:
Do you know of an understand the controversy regarding the "cdesign proponentist" situation that was uncovered during the trial?
This was one of the most important evidences as part of the trial that showed the genetics of ID to classical creationism. My fear is that many IDers or creationists haven't read the trial transcripts and subsequently don't understand the significance of this evidence which was uncovered or the trial itself. So my question to creationists who HAVE read the transcripts is:
- Do you understand the issue regarding the "cdesign proponentist" situation that was uncovered during the trial?
- How did the evidence regarding the dubious tactics of leaders in the ID movement in rebranding creationism as ID as shown by the "cdesign proponentist" evidence affect your position on ID or creationism?
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