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Topic: This just in, republicans have no problem with socialized medicine...
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Taz
Member (Idle past 3311 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: 07-18-2006
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Message 1 of 69 (628745)
08-12-2011 1:37 PM
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... as long as they benefit from it. Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism - 404 Not Found http://www.miamiherald.com/...t-getting-low-cost-health.html These bastards want to cut social security and medicare while wanting to raise the retirement age to 67. Yet, they have no problem paying $30 a month for medical insurance for their families. The custodians who clean out their offices have to pay up to 6 times as much for a personal coverage. Republicans make me sick... Edited by Taz, : No reason given.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 2 of 69 (628759)
08-12-2011 2:49 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
08-12-2011 1:37 PM
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How is medical insurance that is only available to high-ranking state officials anything like socialized medicine, which is available to everyone? Just because its subsidized?
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Taq
Member Posts: 10033 Joined: 03-06-2009 Member Rating: 5.3
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How is medical insurance that is only available to high-ranking state officials anything like socialized medicine, which is available to everyone? Just because its subsidized?
I think Taz is pointing out the hypocracy of it all. Republicans consistently campaign against the very thing they take advantage of: federally subsidized health care. What I find most ironic is that a lot of my dyed in the wool conservative friends don't even understand what socialized health care is. One guy I know is getting close to 65. I asked him if he is going to opt out of Medicare since it is socialized medicine. He game me a strange look and said, "Medicare isn't socialized medicine, I payed taxes to fund the system." He just didn't get it. In the mind of many Republicans, socialized medicine is conflated with welfare. They think it is a give away.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 4 of 69 (628765)
08-12-2011 3:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 3 by Taq
08-12-2011 2:59 PM
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Republicans consistently campaign against the very thing they take advantage of... Exhibit B: The Daily Show with Trevor Noah - Season 27 - TV Series | Comedy Central US
In the mind of many Republicans, socialized medicine is conflated with welfare. They think it is a give away. Yes, they do think that.
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Shield
Member (Idle past 2882 days) Posts: 482 Joined: 01-29-2008
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How is medical insurance that is only available to high-ranking state officials anything like socialized medicine, which is available to everyone? It IS 'socialized' medicine. The fact that it only covers high ranking officials, makes it UNFAIR socialized healthcare.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9140 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.3
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How is medical insurance that is only available to high-ranking state officials anything like socialized medicine, which is available to everyone? Just because its subsidized? quote:
socialized medicine: medical and hospital services for the members of a class or population administered by an organized group (as a state agency) and paid for from funds obtained usually by assessments, philanthropy, or taxation
socialized medicine. Dictionary.com. Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary. Merriam-Webster, Inc. Socialized_medicine Definition & Meaning | Dictionary.com (accessed: August 12, 2011).
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Taz
Member (Idle past 3311 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: 07-18-2006
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Thank you, CS, for showing us how biased you are. Would you like to write to publishers of dictionaries to change their definition of what socialized medicine is to exclude your rich republican politicians?
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 8 of 69 (628792)
08-12-2011 10:23 PM
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And this has what to do with creation/evolution?
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Shield
Member (Idle past 2882 days) Posts: 482 Joined: 01-29-2008
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Message 9 of 69 (628800)
08-12-2011 11:19 PM
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Reply to: Message 8 by Coyote
08-12-2011 10:23 PM
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Nothing.. The Coffee House subforum, is described as following on the main forum page:
Take a break from the debate, kick back, and enjoy conversations on other topics. You'll notice that almost no topics in Coffee House has anything to do with Creation vs. Evolution.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 304 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 10 of 69 (628801)
08-12-2011 11:28 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
08-12-2011 1:37 PM
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Well, they love socialized medicine the same way they love prostitutes, gay sex, and crystal meth. They love it so much they don't want to share it with anyone.
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2126 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 11 of 69 (628802)
08-12-2011 11:50 PM
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Reply to: Message 9 by Shield
08-12-2011 11:19 PM
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Socialist propaganda detracts from the purpose of this site. Perhaps you could take it elsewhere?
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 304 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 12 of 69 (628803)
08-13-2011 12:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Coyote
08-12-2011 11:50 PM
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Socialist propaganda detracts from the purpose of this site. Perhaps you could take it elsewhere? "Socialist propaganda" and "undeniable facts" are not actually synonyms, though to listen to conservatives you'd never know it.
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Shield
Member (Idle past 2882 days) Posts: 482 Joined: 01-29-2008
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Message 13 of 69 (628805)
08-13-2011 12:32 AM
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Reply to: Message 11 by Coyote
08-12-2011 11:50 PM
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Socialist propaganda!? Perhas Taz is smearing some republicans, but he isent promoting socialism..
Scott pays only $30 per month for taxpayer-subsidized health insurance for himself and his family He, and other high ranking officials, get socialized healthcare. He made a decision to get this insurance, which lower ranking people, like his janitor cant get. Rick Scott is fighting against socialized healthcare, yet, that is what he has. By choice.
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Taz
Member (Idle past 3311 days) Posts: 5069 From: Zerus Joined: 07-18-2006
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Message 14 of 69 (628807)
08-13-2011 1:36 AM
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Reply to: Message 13 by Shield
08-13-2011 12:32 AM
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rbp writes: Perhas Taz is smearing some republicans, but he isent promoting socialism..
Stating facts is not "smearing". Is Coyote denying that these republicans are using socialized healthcare by choice?
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 15 of 69 (628838)
08-13-2011 11:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 7 by Taz
08-12-2011 9:45 PM
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Thank you, CS, for showing us how biased you are. No Taz, thank you for showing us how biased you are. Do you have no intention of debating at all? Do you just want to sling shit? You staked a position by making claims in the OP. I asked two questions to better understand your position. And now you're telling me I'm a biased republican. Do you really not know anything about debating or are you just trolling here?
Would you like to write to publishers of dictionaries to change their definition of what socialized medicine is to exclude your rich republican politicians? I don't know, I'm asking here. Like anytime else, when I'm not sure what someone is talking about, I go to wikipedia....
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Socialized medicine is a term used to describe a system for providing medical and hospital care for all at a nominal cost by means of government regulation of health services and subsidies derived from taxation.
So I'll ask again: How is medical insurance that is only available to high-ranking state officials anything like socialized medicine, which is available to everyone? Just because its subsidized?
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