PaulK wants to spin off my
Message 43 which is the last message of the ongoing Great Debate with Moose into a Great Debate on the topic of fossil dating relative to creation vs creationism.
I have been balking. Via PMs Paul and I have been hassling over whether a proposed debate should be moderated. I've argued that I should not be singled out to be moderated in a Great Debate. My concern has a lot to do with the fact that I have been banned from the science forums, including Biblical Accuracy & In-errancy. It has a lot to do with how I was rigorously moderated by Admin in the latter pages of the last Exodus debate.
Concern also relates to Admin's stance on what constitutes evidence of the existence of a supernatural realm in the Universe, his being that there is none.
This proposal is a proposal to engage with PaulK in a Great Debate on fossil dating relative to the evolution vs creationism paradigms.
My terms of this proposal is that the literal rendition of the Genesis record is to be on the table,
no holds barred; that evidence of the supernatural is to be on the table and that the literal event of a global Genesis flood, i.e catastrophic consideration will be on the table.
One of my objections to moderation was that it was unprecedented in past debates, including EvC's first ever Great Debate on the topic of the LoTs. Paul did cite one GD between Razd and Bluejay where AdminPD admonished RAZD, informing him that FGs applied to the great debates. Since during my 8+ year sojourn debating at EvC, my suspension record has been impeccable, IMO, FG violations should not be a moderation concern. Paul has assured me via PM that he will object to any undue moderation.
Paul has PMed me that if we do a debate it will be a very short one of six or eight messages in order for him to wind it up. Let me remind Paul that in the first GD between Jar and me, Jar made a similar boast after which he was on the ropes throughout the debate, calling it quits on page two. I'm in no way suggesting that this will be possible with PaulK. I am aware of the extent of his scientific knowledge, intelligence and debate skills. He will indeed be a formidible opponent.
Creationists, like Israel's army facing the mighty Philistines along with their giant, Goliath are kowtowing to evolutionism and BB theory, dropping the ball. David, with the blessing of Jehovah, the Biblical god, his expertise as a herdsmen in the wilderness with his little stone sling and the
balls so to speak to engage Goliath on behalf of Jehovah and Israel's army, was able to prevail for the cause of Israel and the Biblical god.
I'm in no way boasting a win. My hope is to engage PaulK in a rigorous debate, applying some research which I've done on my own, armed with truth, confident that the Biblical Genesis record is a reliable record and trusting God for wisdom and guidance.
Perhaps Paul's assertion was that the debate would apply only to
Message 43. It is not my intention to restrict my proposal to that message. It is to allow for Paul to cite all aspects of fossil dating just as it is to allow for me to my premise some of my arguments on the Biblical record and any other data supportive to my origins hypothesis.
If, IMO, any undue moderation ensues during this debate, let it be understood that objections will be aired, including ending a pre-mature end to the debate. Under these conditions, I no longer object to the debate being subject to moderation by any moderator, given that Paul did cite one instance of an admonishment by a moderator.
This debate must needs be casual. It assumes that there will be no time or length limitation and that Paul understands that I am a very busy person; my time available for participation being very limited, depending on business concerns and other activities that I am committed to.
There may be intervals of inactivity between messages, due to the extent of Paul's scientific education vs that of mine, given the extent of my education was 3 college semesters in a Bible college. Thus there may be intervals when I will need time to research so as to adequately respond to the opponent's points, etc
If this proposal is granted, I invite PaulK to begin by a response to
Message 43.
BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future.