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Message 1 of 2 (646907)
01-07-2012 9:03 AM


We all know assumptions are a bad way for determining that something is "true" or not true. But there are 3 basic assumptions that everyone assumes.
1. I exist
2. My senses sometimes work
3. Objective physical evidence is a valid way of justifying beliefs
Its because if i dont exist then well its pointless to try to understand anything. And if my senses are always wrong then it is impossible to understand anything. And we know our senses are sometimes wrong hallucinations, or basic illusions support that. If physical evidence is not a valid way of justifying beliefs then we cant justify any belief so we cant gain or have any knowledge.
now if you state god created everything
you made one assumption more then the minimum you assume a god. But that's ok if you assume a god you have to provide support for a god. Using objective physical evidence. If you dont then you have an unsupported assumption and the idea or theory with the least assumptions is most likely correct.
Example a ghost broke the TV.
Assumption there is a ghost
EVP, EM, blood dripping from the walls, things moving alone caught on camera .... And other phenomena support the ghost assumption the theory the gosth did it is likely true.
No such objective evidence then it is more likely that something else broke the tv, like a short in the wiring, Checking the cables, the fuses, the power spikes support that assumption, so it is likely true.
The thing is you can never say something is 100% true because you would assume you have all the evidence and all the facts.
Now creationism or ID assumes:
that a god exists
That he created everything in its current form
You need to provide objective physical evidence for those.
Evolution assumes:
-Common descent that every living thing has a parent. (the absolute beginning of life is covered by abiogenesis)
- Descent with modification that "mutations" accure within offspring
- Natural selection that the offspring that have "better" mutations will most likely have more offspring
Evidence for these assumptions (just a few there are tones more)
-common descent: genetic evidence confirms common descent, so does the fossil record and lots of other stuff
-Descent with modification: genetic evidence confirms this if you look at your genome and compare it to your mother and father you will find that about 4 gens are completely different from both of your parents.And lots of other stuf too like selective breeding ...
- Natural selection: live examples are mice on Madeira, lizards in Australia, ....
If you want your creation theory or ID theory to stand with the theory of evolution you have to provide evidence for your assumptions.

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01-07-2012 9:08 AM


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