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Theodoric
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Message 1 of 15 (891132)
01-18-2022 12:51 PM


Did anyone think the app wouldn't be a security risk? China is going to be accessing all the data they can from people that use the app. I think this in itself is reason to cancel or not attend the games.
By not responding the Chinese organizing committee pretty much admit they are aware of the issues already.
It is incumbent that the US Olympic Committee and the US Government warn all athletes and attendees that ALL of their personal data is at risk and that they can expect that their phones and devices will be compromised.

Mandatory Chinese Olympics app has 'devastating' encryption flaw: analyst

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An app all attendees of the upcoming Beijing Olympics must use has encryption flaws that could allow personal information to leak, a cyber security watchdog said Tuesday.

The "simple but devastating flaw" in the encryption of the MY2022 app, which is used to monitor Covid and is mandatory for athletes, journalists and other attendees of the games in China's capital, could allow health information, voice message and other data to leak, warned Jeffrey Knockel, author of the report for Citizen Lab.

Citizen Lab notified the Chinese organizing committee for the Games of the issues in early December and gave them 15 days to respond and 45 days to fix the problem, but received no reply.

"China has a history of undermining encryption technology to perform political censorship and surveillance," Knockel wrote.

"As such, it is reasonable to ask whether the encryption in this app was intentionally sabotaged for surveillance purposes or whether the defect was born of developer negligence," he continued, adding that "the case for the Chinese government sabotaging MY2022's encryption is problematic."


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Message 2 of 15 (891155)
01-19-2022 5:19 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Theodoric
01-18-2022 12:51 PM


Big Pooh
An app all attendees of the upcoming Beijing Olympics must use ...

Who agreed to this? I wasn't aware of this.

USOC didn't say no? IOC didn't say no?

What the fuck just happened? Are we so jaded about privacy in these times we don't care anymore?

Big brother is not just watching and listening he's got us carrying his eyes and ears in our pockets.

Thank you Winnie the Pooh.

Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.


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Message 3 of 15 (891159)
01-19-2022 6:09 PM
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01-19-2022 5:19 PM


Re: Big Pooh
Are we so jaded about privacy in these times we don't care anymore?

Privacy? What privacy?

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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Message 4 of 15 (891160)
01-19-2022 7:00 PM
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Re: Big Pooh
The privacy Justice Blackmun found in the constitution.

Though, yes, it does seem to have disappeared recently. Republicans.


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Message 5 of 15 (891176)
01-20-2022 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Theodoric
01-18-2022 12:51 PM


Hmmmm, I can't seem to stay away from this place.

A solution without too many moving parts would be for the U.S. Olympic committee to buy a phone for each person on the U.S. team traveling to China. Give every person an account hosted on a committee server. Let each person load the apps they cannot live without and caution them all to leave their personal phone at home. Just load their most important contacts on their Olympic phone. Anyone stupid enough to take a computing device bigger than a phone to China deserves what ever infects it.

Traveling anywhere out of the country, especially in crowded conditions, for any reason, during the worst pandemic in a century, pegs my stupid meter.


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Message 6 of 15 (891177)
01-20-2022 6:31 PM
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01-20-2022 5:18 PM


Reality will be served.

I just wish there was enough objection for the world to say no. Move the games elsewhere if the chinese continue this. That means cancelling the games, again, and crushing a lot of athletes' careers as well as big $$ hits to all olympic committees the world over.

At this point there is too much personal ego and monied self-interest by millions of people to fight it. The no should have come when the chinese first broached the requirement.

When was this requirement known?


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Message 7 of 15 (891178)
01-20-2022 6:43 PM
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01-20-2022 6:31 PM


I don't pay attention to the Olympics. I have always thought it was huge waste of money and that they should be held in the same place instead of moving them around. Historically the facilities built for the games are money pits and never pay for themselves. They are usually paid for by huge regional taxes. And they have not been amateur sports for a long time.

Luge and bobsled are the only real sports anyway!


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Theodoric
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Message 8 of 15 (891180)
01-20-2022 7:38 PM
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01-20-2022 6:43 PM


Excuse me.
Curling!!

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Tanypteryx
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Message 9 of 15 (891181)
01-20-2022 7:53 PM
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01-20-2022 7:38 PM


Oh yeah, curling gets the heart pounding!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 10 of 15 (891182)
01-20-2022 9:05 PM



Eschew obfuscation. Habituate elucidation.

  
Theodoric
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Message 11 of 15 (891191)
01-21-2022 9:11 AM
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01-20-2022 7:53 PM


It got my heart pounding last night in leagues when I missed some easy shots. I tangentially know the Olympic curlers, I don't think they know me, but I have met John Shuster and the rest a couple of times.

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 12 of 15 (891557)
02-03-2022 10:48 AM
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01-21-2022 9:11 AM


I saw on the news this morning that mixed doubles curling has already started in the Olympics, although opening ceremonies will not be until tomorrow.

The Olympic supporters/boosters/whatever should build a permanent winter Olympics setup in Greenland and quit the crappy way they move them around to different really expensive setups every 4 years.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Theodoric
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Message 13 of 15 (891560)
02-03-2022 11:11 AM
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02-03-2022 10:48 AM


Olympic venue
I am casual acquaintances with some of the Olympic curlers I curl in Superior, WI. The skip of the Men's team, John Shuster, lives in Superior and curls out of the Duluth, MN club. We are hoping he will curl out of our club when he retires from the Olympics.

I agree that there should be a permanent Olympic venue. Not sure if Greenland is the right choice. It does not have and cannot sustain the infrastructure needed. I do not think it should be in any of the large countries. Maybe Iceland? New Zealand?


What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. -Christopher Hitchens

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

If your viewpoint has merits and facts to back it up why would you have to lie?


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Message 14 of 15 (891579)
02-04-2022 1:22 AM


No Comment

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Message 15 of 15 (891588)
02-04-2022 11:13 AM
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01-20-2022 6:43 PM


Tanypteryx writes:

Luge and bobsled are the only real sports anyway!


Don't forget skeleton - face first!

"I call that bold talk for a one-eyed fat man!"
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