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Message 1 of 21 (500065)
02-22-2009 2:35 PM


In 1972 I had a motorcycle accident and was involved in a near death experience. I found myself with Jesus Christ in another dimension, another reality. He gave me a choice between life and death and I chose life, being inspired to complete this work for Him.
I have always perceived the Creation of God only from within the boundaries of our reality in this Universe. However, because of my experience with Jesus, I found a new perspective, becoming aware of other realities beyond what we perceive in the world today. With this new perspective, I discovered the seven days of the Creation of God do not begin in the dimension in which we live, but in a spiritual dimension of the LORD.
From a Biblical point of view, the earth that we live on could not have existed before the fourth day because it was not until the fourth day that the stars were made (Genesis 1:17). However, because the Bible says that the earth was created on the first day, it must have occurred in a different reality. Therefore, in order to understand how Science relates to the Creation story in Genesis, one must venture beyond the limits of our perception and gaze into a time when the Universe we know had yet to exist. From this perspective, one may look into this time and see the Word from the reality of the LORD.
The Bible is introduced, beginning in Genesis 1:1 with the seven days as a brief history of all time, followed by a detail of those days. Detail of the first day begins in Genesis 2:4 and then Adam was created from the waters and formed with the mist that watered the whole face of the ground bearing on the reality in the beginning, before this earth ever was. This is why the Garden of Eden will never be found on this earth, because it is simply not here! Neither will Noah’s Ark be found on this earth because the flood occurred on the second day in the reality of the firmament in the midst of the waters. This is beyond the sensory perception of men and women in the world today, before Christ returns. There is then the third day, becoming the firmament of the heaven, ending the time of the foundation of the world. This scenario can be labeled as some kind of Devine String Theory, having parallel universes, specialized for specified purposes.
Nevertheless on the fourth day, To Day, those of the book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David the son of Abraham, come forth naturally from the dust of the earth and all other generations of the book branch off naturally from His generation. Therefore the process God used to form the generation of Jesus in the earth can be discovered scientifically through research, and scientific discovery glorifies the engineering, cleverness and wonder of what God has done for us, while complimenting His Holy Word. This work offers a new and different way to look at Holy Scripture wherein the seven days of the Creation of God has three parts. We will call these parts, Trimesters. The First Trimester consists of the first, second and third day, those days of the foundation of the world in a time before the beginning of the Universe we know, according to the Old Testament. The three days Jesus was crucified at Calvary, buried there in a garden from which He did rise again the third day, according to the New Testament, is the Second Trimester. This occurring in our Universe as launched in Genesis 1:17 (on the fourth day of Creation). After the second coming of Christ there is the reality of the Third Trimester; the fifth, sixth and seventh day. As related by the Holy Word of God in the book of Revelation, ending with the new heaven and new earth when there should be time no longer.
The work keys on the seven Spirits of God revealed in Isaiah 11:2: The Spirit of the LORD, the Spirit of Wisdom and Understanding, the Spirit of Counsel and Might, the Spirit of Knowledge and of the Fear of the LORD. Each have a seal of the seven on the backside of the book written within (Revelation 5:1), and each have a day of the seven of the Creation of God (Revelation 6, 7 and 8); each is given a trumpet to sound at the second coming of Christ (Revelation 8:2) and each is given one of the seven golden vials full of the wrath of God to pour upon the earth after Jesus returns (Revelation 15:7). Beginning with the Spirit of Wisdom, the Lamb opens the seven seals in Revelation 6:1 through Revelation 8:1 wherein there is given another brief history of time unto a history of the day of the Lord and thereafter, and there should be time no longer, forever and ever more. Amen.
Genesis 1:1 through Genesis 2:3 introduce God’s Word with a brief history of time, from creation until there should be time no longer. Literal history of the first day begins in Genesis 2:4 with the term generations (in Hebrew, תולדות; transliteration, towlĕdah), and with this term is found record of the second day and third day in Genesis 6:9 and Genesis 10:1, respectively. A literal history of To day1, the fourth day of Creation begins in Matthew 1:1 with the term generation (in Greek, γένεσις; transliteration, genesis). Prophecy of the fifth, sixth/seventh day is found in Revelation 6:9, and Revelation 6:12 unto Revelation 8:1, respectively. Record of the second coming of Christ is found beginning in Revelation 8:2, and literal history of the fifth, sixth and seventh day begin in Revelation 20:1, Revelation 20:6 and Revelation 21:1, respectively. The Bible is a literal history of man, from creation unto everlasting, as denoted by passages regarding each of the seven days. These passages are evident through Scriptural correlations of topic and/or word use, as is prevalent throughout the King James Version of the Bible.
From the perspective of this work, the known Universe did not begin until the fourth day of the Creation. Therefore scientific theory has no bearing regarding the first three days when there was nothing to study. It has no argument regarding man’s creation on the first day, flood of the second day or the seed and the fruit on the third day. But on this day, To Day 1 which is the fourth day and the fourth part of the earth2 that which can be found through scientific study is intrinsic to the Word of the LORD and to the functionality of our environment. This work gives a modern view of the Word of God, consistent with the 21st Century and beyond.
The Assembly is constructed with passages from the King James Version of the Bible, and two passages from the Gospel of Philip3. I have provided a list of passages in the Assembly, but it is not up to date. But what I have is listed, according to order of appearance, in Source Scripture for the work — (1/12/9). Here, the passages are used for a different concern than as written by the prophets of old. Here they collectively relate a literal history of the seven days of Creation of God, rightly conducive with a modern concept of the Word. Amen.
Note from redactor:
There is evidence found the five books of Moses, the Pentateuch was transcribed by a redactor, combining four separate internally consistent sacred documents of the LORD into one continuous history.
These four source documents are included:
J associated with Yahweh Jehovah
E referring to God as Elohim
P having a great deal to do with matters regarding priests
D that which is found only in the book of Deuteronomy
For example, the biblical story of Noah’s Ark is a combination of two source documents, J and P. If you read either of these stories and go back and read the other, you will find two complete, continuous accounts, each with their own vocabulary and concerns. This model of the combination of source documents came to be known as Documentary Hypothesis, or Higher Criticism.4
Like the hypothesis, this work took passages from throughout the King James Version of the Bible and assembled them into one continuous history of the Seven Days of the Creation of God. The argument posed by Documentary Hypothesis is neither agreed with nor refuted here, but simply used to show how the Assembly was compiled. However, in determining the day of occurrence at any given point in the Bible, it may be necessary to give prayer and supplication with thanksgiving, and let your requests be made known unto God.
The Assembly is to be read as a simple story regarding the Seven Days of the Creation. It is not to be read as a group of verses taken from the King James Version of the Bible, as transcribed by prophets of antiquity. Therefore when studying the Assembly, it is advised not to necessarily consider the message relayed from that context, but rather, to more consider the message relayed from the context of this new telling of the Gospel story of Jesus Christ. The story is simple and straightforward and can deliver understanding of the Word of God relevant and applicable to those of the twenty-first century, and beyond.
1 Luke 23:43, KJV Bible.
2 Revelation 6:8, KJV Bible.
3 Northwest Nazarene University, Wesley Center Online, 1993-2007, The Wesley Center Online: 404 Page Not Found (2009).
4 Richard Elliot Friedman, Who Wrote The Bible? (New York: Summit Books, 1987), p 28, 60.
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Message 2 of 21 (500068)
02-22-2009 3:51 PM


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Message 3 of 21 (500081)
02-22-2009 5:48 PM
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02-22-2009 2:35 PM


Hi string. Welcome. After reading your OP, I got wondering; Since the accident, have you been given a clean bill of health? Are you on any meds?

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Message 4 of 21 (500082)
02-22-2009 6:09 PM
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02-22-2009 5:48 PM


Thanks for writing Buzsaw. I have written a book telling of my experiences after the accident, it goes into production design, Tuesday. It gives details of my experiences after the crash, blessings while in the hospital and how I faired after the wreck. Maybe you would like to read it when published.
To answer your question, I have totaly recovered physically; however, the collision changed my mind, but I am really not sure how. I take a medication call Trileptal, as a mood stabilizer that puts a 'governor' on my thinking.
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Message 5 of 21 (500087)
02-22-2009 6:58 PM
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02-22-2009 6:09 PM


Out Of The Universe Thing
string writes:
To answer your question, I have totaly recovered physically; however, the collision changed my mind, but I am really not sure how. I take a medication call Trileptal, as a mood stabilizer that puts a 'governor' on my thinking.
I see. Well I hope you make a full recovery. I'll pray to that end and that you will come to the knowledge of the truth. The term universe means all, you know. The Bible says God and his entourage dwells in the cosmos/heavens. His angels and other creatures minister to him at his throne within the universe. He sends some of them and they come and go from him to earth on occasion.
Perhaps your book would do well, promoted as a, well, a Biblical science fiction thing or something like that.

BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW.
The immeasurable present eternally extends the infinite past and infinitely consumes the eternal future.

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Message 6 of 21 (500091)
02-22-2009 8:13 PM
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02-22-2009 6:58 PM


Re: Out Of The Universe Thing
I have made a complete recovery, but I have been changed.
If you would like to discuss my work or if you have any questions, you will need to be more specific. But thank you, you helped me clearify an important point. I now have a better disgnation for the term, Universe.
Cheers,
Ken
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Message 7 of 21 (500167)
02-23-2009 6:31 PM
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02-22-2009 2:35 PM


Hi string and welcome to the forums. I see some misconceptions and inaccuracies in your description of the bible, and how it relates to the "string theory". Also your blatant misrepresentation of how Adam was formed.
I've been at this a long time, and it almost pointless to mix science, and religion together. God cannot be proven or disproven. It's wonderful that you had an experience, but that is only the start. As ground rules, when they asked Jesus, He said to Love God with all your heart mind and soul, and then love others as you love yourself.
I say, don't be a hypocrite along the way, and the love others part, refers to everyone.
Trying to prove God, or relate God to science is completely pointless. Jesus died for us, and now we believe by faith. That is the way God wants it.
People who science as a means to disprove God, are only on a journey, or looking for an excuse to deny what they already feel on the inside. We all wind up in the grave.

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Message 8 of 21 (500172)
02-23-2009 7:11 PM
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02-23-2009 6:31 PM


faith
riVeRraT,
My concept of how a string theory may relate to the Bible is a reasonble conclusion, regarding the perspective from which it comes.
What about this representation of how Adam was formed?
"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." bearing on the reality in the beginning "in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." "The first day."
If you have a specific question we can discuss it. I am looking to learn!
Your faith seems to be strong and healthy, go with God and may your works follow you.
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Message 9 of 21 (500184)
02-23-2009 8:43 PM
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faith
riVeRraT,
My concept of how a string theory may relate to the Bible is a reasonble conclusion, regarding the perspective from which it comes.
What about this representation of how Adam was formed?
"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground (ground watered man formed), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." bearing on the reality in the beginning "in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens." "The first day."
If you have a specific question we can discuss it. I am looking to learn!
Your faith seems to be strong and healthy, go with God and may your works follow you.
string

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Message 10 of 21 (500251)
02-24-2009 7:42 AM
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02-23-2009 7:11 PM


Re: faith
string, if you are going to quote the bible, or anything else here in these forums, it is necessary, and helpful to provide a reference. Such as a link, or bible version, verse# etc.
I know next to nothing about the string theory, or how it would relate to the bible, but I do know that the people here in this forum, who haven't met with Jesus (most likely) have created a "spectator thread" for this thread. Just to make fun of you.
EvC Forum: Peanut Gallery
The title of the thread is peanut gallery, and was created by the owner of this forum. The peanut gallery was the audience in the Howdy Doody show.
So unless you have some real hard evidence, and go about things in a scientific manor, using the scientific method, it is almost pointless to talk about it. It's all speculation, and will bring no one here to God. It will only reinforce their position of unbelief. Hopefully you are knowledgeable enough to truly debate this.

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Message 11 of 21 (500272)
02-24-2009 11:21 AM
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02-22-2009 2:35 PM


The Main Problem
Hi string, I suppose what I see to be the main problem with your theory is that it's foundation is on shaky grounds in the sense that I'm not sure you can show me something that is going to ease my mind into taking it seriously.
string writes:
In 1972 I had a motorcycle accident and was involved in a near death experience. I found myself with Jesus Christ in another dimension, another reality. He gave me a choice between life and death and I chose life, being inspired to complete this work for Him.
And what if I say "Okay, but I don't believe you."?
What then? What if I think you simply imagined finding yourself with Jesus Christ? How are you going to convince me that the rest of your theory is actually real?
Or, I suppose, you could start off with "if I am correct about Jesus and the Bible being true aspects of our reality... then how does the logic of this theory stand up?"
That is certainly a fair question with an understood foundation.
So, what is it you would like to discuss?
Do you want to discuss whether or not any of this should be taken seriously in the first place?
(I like these conversations, I find this to be the "priority" issue)
Or do you want to discuss specific merits of your theory under the clear assumption that Jesus and the Bible are true aspects of reality?
(I don't particularly care for these conversations, they assume too much for my tastes... but others here certainly do enjoy such debates)

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Message 12 of 21 (500281)
02-24-2009 12:13 PM
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Re: faith
riVeRrat, ok sorry. Here are the source verses:
"But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground (ground watered man formed), and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul" (Genesis 2:6-7). Bearing on the reality in the beginning "in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens" (Genesis 2:4). "The first day" (Genesis 1:5).
Wait a minute, riVeRrat, if you 'know next to nothing about the string theory, or how it would relate to the Bible', how could you possibly have anyuthing to say of significance. Hey that's a good idea. I think I will create a spectator thread called peanut gallery 2, for you, aka effects of the potted plant syndrone. But I figure, what's the point.

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Message 13 of 21 (500285)
02-24-2009 12:31 PM
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02-24-2009 12:13 PM


Re: faith
Hi string.
If I've misunderstood your intentions, then disregard this post, but it seems like you are a bit miffed at riVeRrat. If so, I think you should read his post again: he was trying to warn you of the spectator thread, not trying to ridicule you himself. He was showing you a kindness.

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Message 14 of 21 (500286)
02-24-2009 12:33 PM
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02-24-2009 11:21 AM


The Main Purpose
Stile, have you read my original post? Nevertheless, from a Biblical point of view, the earth that we live on could not have existed before the forth day because this is the day the stars were made (Genesis 1:17). However, because the Bible says that the earth was created on the first day, it must have occurred in a different reality.
But it doesn't matter whether you believe me or not about the meeting, I am not relying on my word, but on God's Word. I can only convince you that my theory is correct if you ask relevant questions regarding my concepts. My entire work is given at http://bhojc.org. Ready when you are!

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Message 15 of 21 (500290)
02-24-2009 12:46 PM
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02-24-2009 12:31 PM


Re: faith
Aware Wolf, if I sounded 'miffed' I really wasn't. I apoligize to riveRrat for than.
Just call my spectator thread a thread to look at that Howdy Doody show mentioned or whoever it was they were. Hey then riVeRrat, we can all have some fun!
Oh yeah riVeRrat, thanks for the heads up! I would like to consider us friends. I like your faith, and I ain't actin'.
Thank you, Aware Wolf.
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