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Fosdick 
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Message 1 of 2 (398571)
05-01-2007 1:33 PM


rob wrote in Message 3:
I believe it is absurd to label everything as natural.
What isn't natural? Even artificial things like nukes, pop-tarts, and robots are natural. "God" is natural, too”no less natural than soap suds or Shakespearean sonnets. Another expression for God is ”Fear Of Death.’ That’s natural enough. The fact that humans have made an extra-big fuss over God doesn’t mean that such fearful fussing is unnatural.
Rob, you believe in the supernatural, I suppose. Well, you're not alone. But the God meme is natural enough. Look at the vast studies of historical cultures across the world, primitive or otherwise; they all have supernatural beliefs and God memes. They all fear death. So they are natural, aren't they? What isn’t natural? Can your attitude against nature be justified by invoking the God-Is-Above-Nature principle?
The God meme has proven to be ubiquitous across cultures and geographies. The human is like any other animal, we’re all hard-wired to fear death. Some animals take up arms races to counter what they fear, such as the porcupine. Humans do something like that, too, and they also take up religions. That’s natural enough: when humans are so fearful of natural death they naturally invent belief systems to comfort them and lower your stress levels. That’s natural.
But you, rob, want to see humans as a special creation. And how do you measure the difference? You invoke the scientific meme of complexity:
I think human beings are far more complex than mere animals.
I suppose you assume godliness is part of human complexity. If anything, why wouldn't that make us a lesser beast in forest? If complexity is the measure you desire, you ought to check out the cuttlefish.
”HM

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05-01-2007 2:48 PM


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