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Author Topic:   All Evolutionary scientists have been Evolutionary Indoctrinated
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Message 1 of 2 (227562)
07-29-2005 6:29 PM


Scientists who believe in evolution are people. People now and people before they were scientists. When they were just people, these folk heard about evolution. And what they would have heard is a single, unified and repeated message. And that message was: "Evolution is FACT!".
I'm not a scientist, but what I suspect, is that evolution-targetted science, like other science, is complex. Very often it is very complex. Many aspects of it: mutation of genes, body symmetry, the fossil record, survival of the fittest etc...is very complex. Maybe not when the 'science' is a toned-down version - as seen on t.v., or in the broad-brushstroked pages of books like 'The Blind Watchmaker. But when it comes to having to withstand the critique of peers, and is presented in the form of published papers, then it gets very complex indeed. So complex in all probability, that only other experts in the field can truly comprehend every critical piece of minutae when deciding whether to accept or reject a particular morsel presented, as Science.
This raises some questions:
Given that science is complex, how could anyone be sure evolution was true without achieving the necessary degree of education and experience which would allow them to evaluate for themselves the complex evidence involved? If the answer is they couldn't then...
How do people who become evolution-believing scientists know that a belief which arose in them when they were uninformed, isn't the main reason why they believe today? In other words, could indoctrination, prior to them becoming scientists, ensure that every piece of evidence, every hypothesis, every conclusion they make, is pre-filtered through evolution-tinted spectacles?
If the answer to the above is a resounding NO! then how does a scientist know, or even more difficultly, demonstrate this?
Hence a debate proposal:
Scientists who believe in evolution were indoctrinated to believe in evolution before they became scientists. And because of that, it is impossible for such scientists to claim they can to be objective about evidence which they use to argue that evolution is true. Or to put it another way, it is impossible for them to demonstrate that they aren't wearing evolution-tinted spectacles every time they weigh up evidence. Spectacles that started tinting when they were young and got increasingly more tinted as time went on to the point of only letting in light coloured 'Evolution'. Let me sum up by coining a phrase in saying that evolutionary-believing scientists have been subject to evolutionary indoctrination, henceforth EI, and that one logical outworking of this, should my case hold together, is that evolution has no basis in fact. It is not true
The Mechanism of Indoctrination (MI):
To get started it would be useful if I could provide a mechanism by which folk (scientist and non-scientist alike) are EI'd.
The mechanism by which EI works is lifelong and repeated exposure to statements which say or imply that Evolution is true. The mechanism starts at a very early age, when there is little to prevent it exerting influence. MI takes many forms: kids nature programmes, tv ads, cartoons, friends taunts, games played, science lessons all the way through school, popular science books, science fiction, natural history programmes,toys, eminent looking scientists saying it's true, early interest hobbies in things scientific, films, magazines, .. and the fact that even the dog in the street knows it. The MI has virtually nothing which opposes it. There is no scientific alternative presented which says our existance is the result of another mechanism (or if there is, it's, relatively speaking, a side issue and not comparable to the mass-influence of the MI - the cogs and gears of which are listed above). Not even religion will necessarily affect it's workings. Many who have a faith: Christian, Buddist, Hindi etc will not consider there to be conflict between their belief and the acceptance that Evolution is true.

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07-29-2005 6:47 PM


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