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Author Topic:   Creationism IS a 'Cult'ural Movement!
Jon
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01-06-2007 6:17 AM


We meet tomorrow at 6:00
Though rare, Creationists have pulled out of certain debates admitting their wrongs. They generally say something to the effect of: the evidence doesn't support our opinion (but doesn't support evolution), there's always room for new evidence, and Creationists shouldn't use this point as an argument any more. Here is an example:
Answers in Genisis: Moon dust and the age of the solar system
Thus, until new evidence is forthcoming, creationists should not continue to use the dust on the moon as evidence against an old age for the moon and the solar system.
It is this part of the "retraction" that I wish to discuss here, as it clearly points to Creationism being a "social movement" if you will, as opposed to an open-thinking investigation of the facts through utilization of the scientific method. It is as if these very powerful Creationism "pushers" are calling out to their following asking that they now behave in a certain manner.
Certainly, the use of such tactics is not becoming of a scientist, nor of sellers of a scientific theory. The Creationist leader sermons to his congregation:
"I would ask that you no longer use this as evidence when debating an individual who believes in an old Earth."
His flock somberly moseys on out of the meeting hall, and with them they take his suggestion, and never again do the poor brainwashed folk use his mentioned argument when debating an old-Earth proponent. Where's the science in this? It seems as if a small number of Creationists own the market on what is and on what is not to be used/brought up when entering into a debate with a real scientist. Since when is power used to convince people of scientific facts? Who are these men who think they can stand up behind a podium, tell their followers something, and have it instantly be made true?
The only place we see this kind of behaviour is in a cult, not in a laboratory.
J0N
@admins: I'm thinking social issues in C&E? or maybe misc. topics?
Edited by Jon, : Changed Title & Added Subtitle.

In considering the Origin of Species, it is quite conceivable that a naturalist... might come to the conclusion that each species had not been independently created, but had descended, like varieties, from other species. - Charles Darwin On the Origin of Species

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01-06-2007 3:55 PM
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Re: We meet tomorrow at 6:00
Hi Jon. I'm not adverse to promoting this, but I would like to ask you first what exactly you expect to accomplish with the OP? Who do you think/hope will respond, and in what direction? What specifically is the topic you want to cover over the next 298 posts?

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    Jon
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    Message 3 of 4 (375049)
    01-06-2007 11:50 PM
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    01-06-2007 3:55 PM


    Re: We meet tomorrow at 6:00
    Well.. pretty much that Creationism is NOT science. Not just because of the "evidence" or the way it is "gathered" (we all know it is just made up), but because of the fact that it is driven by what those at the head of the monster tell everyone else. There's no free thinking; no one coming up with new ideas. It's like a cult, a religion, no matter how much Creationists want to deny it.
    I just figured that there would be a number of people who agreed with me on this, and perhaps an equal number who disagree. Thought maybe we could get a little discussion going on what people think of the way Creationism pushes its followers to believe this and that... and often they switch back on the same evidence. There's no evidence to support it, and it's ALL based on what the leaders say. It's a cult.
    I hope that cleared it up
    J0N

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    01-07-2007 7:14 PM


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