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Author Topic:   Atheism is a belief (Why Atheists don't believe part 2)
riVeRraT
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Message 1 of 5 (314728)
05-23-2006 7:37 PM


A continuation of this thread:
Why Atheists don't believe
Ok, ready for this one?
This quote from jar sparked a thought in my head, and I will try to explain it to you.
I can't think of a single reason for an atheist to believe in a God. There isn't any really good verifiable evidence there is one, or any strong reason to suppose there might be a God. Most atheists I've had dealings with seem to be pretty reasonable, rational individual, and if they were presented with overwhelming evidence that GOD existed, then would likely accept that fact. But until presented with such evidence, why should they believe?
I will agree that most atheists are pretty reasonable, ok no prejudice here, now on with it.
Why should they believe? Well the bible clearly states, that it is faith that gets you your evidence.
I am going to make the claim that atheism is a belief, and here is why.
You have a thought, you express the thought, someone can choose to believe it or not. We went over that in the previous thread. Some atheists take some things on faith, without evidence, or checking on the evidence.
Now the thought is God. You can choose to believe it or not. You can look for evidence, and you may find none. You may find only subjective evidence. But either way, you have chosen not to believe in God.
This does not mean there is no God. We are only unable to prove His existence objectively.
So you have chosen to believe there is no God. You cannot prove that there is no God, so it is a belief. A belief backed by lack of empirical evidence, fine.
Let's reverse roles. You are trying to convince me that there is no God. I say to you prove it. You can't.
The only way you could be a true atheist, is if you have never heard the word God, and you have no inner feeling that there is one. The thought has never crossed your mind.
I hate it when an atheist tries to portray himself as someone like that, when it is just not the case.
There is more to the thought, it goes on to the mathematical possibility of God, but I guess I should stop it here.
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Message 2 of 5 (314729)
05-23-2006 7:48 PM


Thread moved here from the Coffee House forum.
Rat---we really need to start these types of topics here rather than the Coffee House. I have to go to work now, but I will chat with you later about placing this in Faith/Belief.
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    Message 3 of 5 (314743)
    05-23-2006 8:33 PM
    Reply to: Message 1 by riVeRraT
    05-23-2006 7:37 PM


    We have had this debate before
    See Atheism isn't a belief? for a previous incarnation of this study.
    Maybe it is time to debate it again. I thought it useful to at least provide a reference to the previous discussion of the topic.

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    Message 4 of 5 (314771)
    05-23-2006 9:53 PM
    Reply to: Message 3 by AdminNWR
    05-23-2006 8:33 PM


    Re: We have had this debate before
    Rodger that.
    I figured it was covered already somewhere, but since the first part went pretty well, and it was in the coffee house, I just figured I continue it there.
    But I guess I switched gears on it a little.

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    Message 5 of 5 (314826)
    05-24-2006 8:02 AM


    Thread copied to the Atheism is a belief (Why Atheists don't believe part 2) thread in the Faith and Belief forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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