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Message 1 of 2 (395309)
04-15-2007 11:32 PM


Why should I choose Atheism and Evolution over God and Creation?
In Genesis 1:1 it says that In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Most go right to Genesis 1:2 and start the creation but it was created in Genesis 1:1. Somehow I think the scriptures got mixed up as in: Gene 2:4 (KJS) These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
In the day the Lord God made the earth and heavens. This account corresponds to Genesis 1:1 Gene 5:1 (KJS) This [is] the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; This says the book of generations of Adam in the day that God created man in the likeness of God. This account corresponds with the account in Genesis 1:2 - 2:3
Therefore I believe and propose that somewhere back in time as we know it that God created the heavens and the earth. I believe at that moment it was perfect in every way. The best I get is that there was no sea at this time. There was no day and night just day as God was the light. So when God told Adam the day he ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil he would die, he did die the same day. This day could have lasted millions of years in our time as there was no time then. This man was not as we know man today. He was formed from the dust of the earth and God breathed into his nostrils and he became a living soul.
I do not think he was limited as we are as he could probably teleport himself where ever he wanted to go. To name all the animals he had to be a very smart man. I believe he was the smartest man that has ever walked on the face of the earth, other than the God man.
At many points in time and the last probably about 66 million years ago there were extinction events. I assume all life forms was destroyed I have no way of knowing. Except when we get to Genesis 1:2 the earth was void and without form and now it had water.
Then we have the 7 days of Moses, the recreation, Gen. 1:2 - Gen. 2:3.
Gene 1:11 (KJS) And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, [and] the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed [is] in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. {grass: Heb. tender grass}
Pay special attention to the seed in itself upon the earth.
How did those seed get there if they were not there before?
Gene 1:26 (KJS) And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his [own] image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gene 1:28 (KJS) And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. {moveth: Heb. creepeth}
Man blessed and told to multiply and replenish the earth. He could not replenish it if it had not been inhabited before.
I have never been able to buy into the idea that man just happened. I have always needed to know that my life was worth something and there was a reason for it. The only place I found that was in the Bible. Now I am a realist and I know man has copied the manuscripts and has probably arranged things to suit themselves along the way and even added and took away things.
But I believe that God has preserved His Word. I have studied many Bibles and have been able to find the core teachings that I believe in 90 % of them.
The Bible is the only book that I have read so far that tells me where I came from. Why I am here, and where I will spend eternity.
Some things the Bible tells me:
That God made me so I could choose to love and serve Him just because He is God.
That man has a sin nature he inherited from Adam.
God provided a sacrifice to pay my sin debt.
Jesus the only begotten Son of God was crucified that I might be saved.
That to go to heaven I must trust in That Sacrifice.
That if I do nothing I will spend eternity in the lake of fire.
That Christ was buried and arose 3 days later.
That 40 days later he ascended into Heaven to make intercession for me.
That Jesus is coming again.
That I will be judged according to how I have done on earth and will be rewarded accordingly.
That all who have not trusted Christ will stand at the Great White Throne judgment and confess Jesus is Lord.
That all whose names are not written in the Lambs Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire.
That there will be a new Heaven and Earth.
That there will be no more day or night as God will be the light.
That there will be a City, The New Jerusalem that has streets of Gold,where I will live with God for eternity.
I have had a happy full life and enjoyed every minute of it and I can say as Paul said, I have fought a good fight I have kept the faith and if it does end with my death what have I lost. I would not trade what I have had and still have for all the money Bill Gates and Warren Buffet have put together. That money could not buy the peace and satisfaction I have had for the past 58 years. I have never needed anything that my God has not supplied.
Now these are the things I believe and have through my faith in God.
Now I know that most of you cannot relate to what I believe. You think it is a myth, some even call it a lie, some would say I am deluded. But if when I die that is all there is to it what have I lost?
Evolution as I understand it, teaches us that we evolved from a life form that we do not know where it came from, why, or how it got here yet.
Chiroptera tells me we are not much different than a worm.
quote:
Biologically, there isn't much difference between a human and a worm,
  —Chiroptera
If we are no different than the animals, birds, fishes, or worms then when we die we return to where ever it was that we came from and that is the end of it.
But what if I am right and there is a heaven to gain and a hell to avoid?
I posted what I believe so that those wishing to respond would know where I am coming from.
But I want to limit the discussion to the question's below.
What benefit would it be for me to renounce God and creation and embrace Atheism and evolution?
For that matter what benefit is derived by anyone choosing Atheism and Evolution over God and Creation?

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04-17-2007 7:20 AM


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