Well here goes. We actually had a sermon this Sunday, and some if it was about why we believe the bible to be the Word of God. I beleive the bible is the Word of God because of the overwhelming evidence that supports it. This evidence can be broken down into 5 categories:
1. Authorship 2. Manuscripts 3. History 4. Archeology 5. Prophecy
Let's take a look at prophecy that specifically applied to Jesus.
I'll only list the concrete verses as opposed to the "He would come with authority into the temple" which, while I believe Jesus fulfilled, I don't think it is going be of any analytical use to you.
Prophecies of the messiah and how Jesus fulfilled them.
These are mostly about the death of Jesus and precise details surrounding it. There are many more prophecies which have a theological relevance, but little relevance to anyone simply looking for "evidence." Keep in mind that the individual books of the bible were written by many different people over thousands of years, yet it tells one cohesive story about the fall and redemption of man.Who wrote the bible?.
You can look at this in a few different ways. You can say that the authors of the gospels or Jesus simply studied the old testament and attempted to fulfill them or write them into their story. You can say Jesus never really existed and the whole thing is either totally or partially made up. Or you can say it is all coincidence, and that people looked through the OT to find obscure passages that seemed to apply to Jesus' life and deaht. I doubt the roman soldiers were attempting to fulfill hebrew scripture about the messiah though.
I think the greatest evidence is the bible itself. "All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever." 1 Peter 1:24-26
Indeed it has stood the test of time. We can do 1-4 if you are still interested.
Re: What is the attraction for circular reasoning?
quote:I think the greatest evidence is the bible itself. "All men are like grass, and all their glory is like the flowers of the field; the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever." 1 Peter 1:24-26
Brian - this really sums it up - the bible is the best evidence that the claims in the bible are true.
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-Aug-2005 02:08 PM
First of all, thank you for taking the time to express your position so clearly. It is certainly true that, so long as one views the New Testament accounts as accurate history, it is very difficult to interpret many "Old Testament" verses as anything other than prophecy.
But Tal, many of us do not view the New Testament accounts as accurate history but, rather, as fiction and legend written many decades after the presumed events. From our standpoint, there is nothing at all mysterious or difficult about forging a narrative to look like prophecy fulfilled.
What makes this view ever more compelling is the fact that a common form of Jewish story-telling at the time (salled Midrash) can be characterized as parable using the Tanach (the Jewish scriptures) as prooftext. There is no prophecy. There is only late 1st century story-telling, and most of it is not done very well at all.
This message has been edited by ConsequentAtheist, 08-09-2005 02:10 PM
Wow...alot of people in here that aren't wolf."Why not go to war just for oil? We need oil. What do Hollywood celebrities imagine fuels their private jets? How do they think their cocaine is delivered to them?" --Ann Coulter