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booboocruise
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Message 1 of 3 (37766)
04-24-2003 1:36 AM


As a Bible-believing Christian, a literal young-earth creationist, and a disciple of the gospel, allow me to explain your 'contradictions' in the Bible.
I have read Genesis a number of times--Genesis chapter 1 gives a literal, chronological account of the creation of the universe and of earth. On day one he created land and light, day 2 was birds, day three he created plants, day five he created beasts, etc.
On day six he created man AND THEN he created the Garden of Eden (carefully reread Gen 1 and 2 and look for the specific order of words).
In Gen 2 God had created Adam and then he created the Garden of Eden. You see, he did that because he wanted Adam to witness the making of Eden, or else Satan could claim HE created it (that is why Eve was decieved, because she was not there to witness God making the garden).
So, the general order of creation of plants and animals in Gen 2 are of only the garden on day 6, and that doesn't pertain to the first days of creation. Reread Gen 1 and 2 again and you'll see that Gen 2 is referring to the seperate creation of Eden, and therefore there is no contradiction).
Also, I understand that the Bible says "on the third day he will be raised" and then says "after the third day..."
Today, in modern English (which is how the Bible is written to us Americans) the word "day" still has meanings.
Let me show you: if I said "I'll mow the lawn in three days," then I am probably stating (on Monday) that I'll mow the lawn on the third, 24-hour day (on Wednesday). Then, if I said (Monday morning) that I'll mow the lawn AFTER the third day, before I go to work, then I COULD be saying again that I'll mow the lawn on Wednesday. (So you see, "after three days" refers to sundown ON THE THIRD DAY, meaning "after three spans of daylight.") Then, "on the third day" was refering to the third 24-hour span of time. Both contexts refer to the combination of 3, literal days, and therefore there is no contradiction.
Jesus was crucified on Friday, buried, and arose on a Sunday (Easter). So, that would mean that "After three sunsets (DAYS)" OR "on the thirdday (again after three sunsets (DAYS)". No contradiction with Jesus' burial.
Besides, why would you ignorantly claim (obviously you haven't read the Bible thoroughly) that Jesus' resurrection was merely spiritual? The ENTIRE New testament was written by eye-witnesses of Jesus having been physically allive AFTER his six-hour-long crucifiction and 3-day burial. Study it again: THERE ARE NO CONTRADICTIONS IN THE BIBLE.
What about the Bible and the value of Pi?
Well, the brass basin built by Solomon was ten cubits across and a 30-cubit compass (II Chronicles chapter 4). HOWEVER, this again is no contradiction... observe: the Bible also says that the basin is a handwidth thick. If you take the handwidth of an average person, subtract it from their cubit, that would make up the difference between Pi and simply "3" when subtracted from a circle's compass. So, the supposed contradiction there was just a misunderstanding of the Bible: the width of the bowl was 10 cubits (the width that you would have to have to fit it between two pillars) while the measurement of the rim (they wanted to know how much water and volume it would have) was 30 cubits. Although it is not meantioned, there is no contradiction, because it would take a whole separate measurement (around the OUTER EDGE of the bowl) to get that sensible 31.4159265... cubits.
Again, there ARE NO contradictions made in the Bible (obviously anybody out there can TWIST what is written in the Bible to mean what they want it to, but that would be a cult--which is a manipulation of an original doctrine).
Try harder next time (actually I take that back, it's hopeless--finding a contradiction in the ORIGINAL King James translation from 1611 would be like trying to find a brick inside a glass of water--it's not there, and anybody who HONESTLY reads the original Bible cover-to-cover cannot deny that).
In Christ,
Booboo

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Message 2 of 3 (37769)
04-24-2003 1:53 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by booboocruise
04-24-2003 1:36 AM


Then, if I said (Monday morning) that I'll mow the lawn AFTER the third day, before I go to work, then I COULD be saying again that I'll mow the lawn on Wednesday.
Are you a native speaker of english? because if you said this to me on Monday morning, I'd assume you would mow the lawn thursday morning, because that would be the first time "before work" could happen after the thrid day (wednesday). If you mowed it on Wednesday I'd be like "you're a day earlier than you said you would be. The grass is still too wet and you've ruined my mower." Or something.
Let me show you: if I said "I'll mow the lawn in three days," then I am probably stating (on Monday) that I'll mow the lawn on the third, 24-hour day (on Wednesday).
This doesn't quite make sense either. Most people would equate three days with 72 hours. That still makes Thursday about the earliest you could be technically correct.
Consider this. If I leave on a three-day vacation on monday, I expect to be kickin' it in the Bahamas until I leave thursday afternoon or so.
Again, there ARE NO contradictions made in the Bible (obviously anybody out there can TWIST what is written in the Bible to mean what they want it to, but that would be a cult--which is a manipulation of an original doctrine).
But if you're the one that has to play word games to justify your position, isn't that YOU twisting the bible? Therefore doesn't that make YOU the cult?

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Message 3 of 3 (37770)
04-24-2003 2:02 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by booboocruise
04-24-2003 1:36 AM


booboo topic flood
This is the 12th topic you have started in 10 days.
Take care of your involvements elsewhere - You're spreading yourself too thin.
You may wish to take part in (if you're not already) the "The Bible has no contradictions" topic.
Closing this one down.
Adminnemooseus

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