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Author Topic:   Apparently EVC Forum wishes no creationist links on specific issues.
kendemyer
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Message 1 of 17 (91177)
03-08-2004 4:05 PM


TO: Creationist
Apparently, EVC Forum wishes no creationist links on specific issues. You will just find general creationist links in the links forum. The evolutionist, however, are very free to do what they wish and this can be readily seen in the links area. Do not expect EVC Forum to be a forum where both sides are free to share resources. I wished no debate in the links room. I just was giving resources on a specific issue.
Sincerely,
Ken
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MisterOpus1
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Message 2 of 17 (91178)
03-08-2004 4:10 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:05 PM


Would you shut up already and just try to finish your topics and/or arguments you've created already? You have many unanswered questions, so please extend the courtesy to everyone here, be the honest individual that you purport yourself to be, and answer those questions that are directed towards your arguments (or lack thereof).
Man, this is becoming extremely tedious.

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kendemyer
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Message 3 of 17 (91180)
03-08-2004 4:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by MisterOpus1
03-08-2004 4:10 PM


Misteropus: no creationist links on specific issues allowed in links room?
Misteropus:
Explain why the evolutionist have specific issues addressed in the links section but creationist do not.
Sincerely,
Ken

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AdminBrian
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Message 4 of 17 (91182)
03-08-2004 4:18 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:05 PM


Ken, could you please reply to the many unanswered questions that you are ignoring?
You have been asked by a few of the admins to refrain from opening new topics until you actually do some debating on the topics you have already started.
AdminBrian
[This message has been edited by AdminBrian, 03-08-2004]

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Loudmouth
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Message 5 of 17 (91184)
03-08-2004 4:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:05 PM


Ken,
The links are still there for people to see. The "Links and Informatin" is just that, a place for info. However, it is not a forum that is meant for debate. Therefore, your opening posts are really all that is needed. The Admin's are probably closing the threads so that the debate is moved to the appropriate forum, such as the "Free for All" forum.

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kendemyer
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Message 6 of 17 (91190)
03-08-2004 4:33 PM


Loudmouth:
I was not debating. I just posted one posting that had some links on a specific issue. The evolutionist address specific issues in the link room but you will notice an absence of creationist doing the same. The absence is real. It is caused by bad moderation. EVC Forum states they want both issues freely sourced and debated. They do not. Explain to me why there is the imbalance in the links room.
Sincerely,
Ken

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kendemyer
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Message 7 of 17 (91192)
03-08-2004 4:35 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by AdminBrian
03-08-2004 4:18 PM


To: brian
To: Brian
Nice ruse. Explain the creationist/evolutionist imbalance in regards to addressing specific issues in the links room. Explain my resource being shut down.
Sincerely,
Ken

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Loudmouth
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Message 8 of 17 (91196)
03-08-2004 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:33 PM


Ken,
Everyone is free to post links here, be they creationist or evolutionist. You seem to be complaining that other creationists don't post here and you are blaming the Admins. Shouldn't you be blaming the other creationists for not posting, since no one is stopping them?

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AdminBrian
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Message 9 of 17 (91197)
03-08-2004 4:42 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:35 PM


Re: To: brian
Ken, read the link attached to the word 'Admins' on my last message to you, you have been asked to refrain from opening new threads until further notice.
You have left too many messages unanswered and as you keep pointing out this is a debating board, you are not debating all you do is post links without any supporting commentary at all.
Think about it this way Ken, some people have put a lot of work into replying to your topics, these people are waiting for a reply and they haven't recieved one yet, they think that you are toio busy to reply and then the next thing you are posting nonsense all over the website. Have some manners and reply to the people who have been decent enough to try and discuss your issues with you.
In the meantime, can I ask you to please refrain from opening any new topics until a senior admin has given you permission.
I am asking you to please help out Ken.
AdminBrian.

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Trixie
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Message 10 of 17 (91199)
03-08-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:33 PM


I read the links
.....and seriously wish I hadn't bothered. Ken, most of the information that the authors of these sites base their arguments on comes fron the 50s, 60s and 70s - well out of date. It may surprise you to know that genetic research has come on a long way since then. However, you'll find very little of this more recent research cited on the websites you're using because the findings totally refute the arguments of these sites. You can be sure that some of the Creationist sites keep up to date with research in order to grasp at any evidence they think supports their views. The problem comes when their is evidence which goes against their theories - they ignore it, they never mention it, they hope it will go away and if all else fails, they will misrepresent it or quote bits out of context.
What I read in the sites you posted really was sooooooooo bad as to be laughable. If you want to preach to this particular molecular biologist, you're going to have to find more accurate information, more up to date information and more carefully thought out information. I'm curious as to what you base your ability to critique genetics on? Do you know enough to be able to determine whether the information in a web site is correct or not?
One of the best ways to readsomething that you think might support your theories is to ask yourself "What flaws can I find in this? Are there any obvious errors? Do they make any errors of logic? Have they considered everything that pertains to their theory?" Hunt for the flaws, hunt for the errors and if you can't find them, then read the information, but always bear in mind that they may be wrong. Think for yourself, don't just regurgitate other people's thinking, otherwise you end up regurgitating their errors.

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AdminAsgara
Administrator (Idle past 2414 days)
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Message 11 of 17 (91200)
03-08-2004 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:35 PM


KEN
Ken, you know exactly why your new theads are being shut down. You have been asked by more than one moderator to NOT OPEN NEW THREADS until you deal with the others you have opened. Before today, you had opened 15 threads, 14 in less than a month. Five of these threads have been closed.
I have been seriously forcing myself to not suspend you. I have given you ample time to start debating in good faith on the threads you have already started.
What I want from you now is a simple yes or no. Either:
YES I will start following forum guidelines and debate in good faith in the topics I have started in the FFA, this can lead to reinstatement of full debating privileges.
or NO I do not wish to continue debating on this forum, at which time your threads will be shut down and you will no longer be a member here.
make your pick. anything other than a yes or no addressed to me in one of your already in place threads, and I will take that as a NO and you will be suspended.

AdminAsgara
Queen of the Universe

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kendemyer
Inactive Member


Message 12 of 17 (91202)
03-08-2004 4:47 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by AdminBrian
03-08-2004 4:42 PM


Re: To: brian
Brian:
Quit evading. Why do the evolutionist have specific links that address specific issues and the creationist do not? I was not opening a new topic to discuss. That is clearly not the point of the links room. Again, explain the imbalance in the links room.
Sincerely,
Ken

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AdminBrian
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Message 13 of 17 (91203)
03-08-2004 4:51 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:47 PM


Re: To: brian
Well since you have woke the Queen up, I will step aside.
Ken, one final word, you are a disgrace to your faith and you have no idea how many times I have stuck up for you. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Bye.
Brian.

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kendemyer
Inactive Member


Message 14 of 17 (91206)
03-08-2004 4:52 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by AdminAsgara
03-08-2004 4:46 PM


Re: KEN
TO: Queen Asgara
Your propaganda is not working. You are counting the suggestion strings I am sure. You are also counting strings you shut down. Suggestion strings are not topic strings. Please explain the imbalance in links room. Why do evolutionist address specific issues and creationist do not.
Sincerely,
Ken
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Chiroptera
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Message 15 of 17 (91208)
03-08-2004 4:55 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by kendemyer
03-08-2004 4:52 PM


Oh, jeez!
Ask the creationists. They are the ones who aren't posting there.
And have you noticed that your links are still there?

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