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Author Topic:   Childhood Vaccinations – Necessary or Overkill?
purpledawn
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Message 1 of 2 (364752)
11-19-2006 1:38 PM


Oddly enough I was tagged in another thread as a creationist and biology hater because I questioned the need for childhood vaccinations. So I’m presenting my reasons, which have no basis in religion, for questioning the system.
This debate, should you choose to participate, is strictly science. No faith or value issues. Just the facts.
Here are the types of healing available to us today.
Allopathy (MD): A method of treating disease with remedies that produce effects antagonistic to those caused by the disease itself.
Naturopathy (ND): A system of therapeutics in which surgery and prescription medications are avoided, and preparations such as vitamins, nutritional supplements, and herbs are used to treat and prevent disease.
Naturopathic Doctors
Naturopathic doctors -- who carry an N.D. behind their name -- focus on the whole health of patients and emphasize the use of diet, exercise, nutritional supplements and herbal therapies to help prevent disease and to promote wellness. They attend accredited, four-year graduate level naturopathic medical schools to become primary-care practitioners, but have a more limited scope of practice than do medical doctors. They receive the same basic sciences as an M.D., but also study clinical nutrition, acupuncture, homeopathic and botanical medicine and psychology. They do not go through residency programs, but must pass rigorous national and state boards to practice.
Homeopathy: A system for treating disease based on the administration of minute doses of a drug that in massive amounts produces symptoms in healthy persons similar to those of the disease.
Now to discuss childhood vaccinations
Vaccination is the process of administering weakened or dead pathogens to a healthy person or animal, with the intent of conferring immunity against a targeted form of a related disease agent. It succeeded and is distinct from inoculation.
We have been lead to believe that vaccinating our children is necessary to protect them and to stop the spread of various diseases.
MMR/MR - Measles, Mumps, and Rubella
Measles - Vaccinations for measles was implemented in 1968. Death from measles had already declined by 99% before the vaccination was implemented according to the graph.
The decline may be more the result of nutritional and hygienic improvements.
We are also getting feedback concerning generational complications.
Babies of Vaccinated Mothers More Susceptible to Measles
Mumps - Considered beneficial Had the vaccination and had the mumps.
"Mumps is a common childhood disease which is benign in the in the vast majority of cases. It is desirable that mumps be contracted in early childhood because, when contracted in adulthood, the disease may cause meningitis and/or damage to the testes, ovaries, auditory nerves or pancreas. However, and equally importantly, women are less likely to contract ovarian cancer if they have had mumps during childhood (West 1966)."---Viera Scheibner, Ph.D.
In 1992 the MMR vaccine had to be withdrawn because the mumps portion was proven unsafe.
Rubella (German Measles) is more of a concern for pregnant women, not children. The vaccination prevents young girls from acquiring natural immunity in childhood, but leaves them susceptible to the disease when an adult and possibly pregnant.
DTP - Diphtheria, Tetanus, Pertussis
Diphtheria - Is more a result of unsanitary conditions and poor nutrition.
Tetanus - Develops from an infection resulting from trauma.
Pertussis - This one seems to be on the rise again.
There have been cases of children dying from vaccinations, granted that's not the majority, but there are also studies that autism is also caused.
In the naturopathic realm the balance of the body is crucial. Vaccinations and antibiotics can put the body in an imbalance. We may not see the effects immediately following the vaccination, but they are surfacing. Naturopaths are trying to look at the underlying problems or causes, not just fixing the symptoms.
Now given that I live in the rural Midwest and am probably within the upper middle class, I really have to look at whether my child is really at risk for these diseases. I have to weigh the possible side effects based on my lifestyle and what I have learned about the cause of these diseases.
10 Misconceptions about Immunizations
Obviously these people disagree, what is an end user to do? Who to trust? I'm an average person with a layman's knowledge of science and medicine. Ultimately I have to decide whose info to trust.
So if you are for vaccinations, present your facts, but no ranting please.
NOTE: This debate, should you choose to participate, is strictly science or tangible evidence we have available to us. No faith or value issues. No religious doctrines or preaching. Just the facts.
Edited by purpledawn, : No reason given.

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Message 2 of 2 (364842)
11-20-2006 7:29 AM


Thread copied to the Childhood Vaccinations - Necessary or Overkill? thread in the Coffee House forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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