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Author Topic:   Does American culture overemphasize individualism?
hiddenexit77
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Message 1 of 8 (18643)
09-30-2002 8:30 PM


Discuss.

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Message 2 of 8 (18644)
09-30-2002 8:35 PM
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09-30-2002 8:30 PM


"Discuss."
--Elaborate
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hiddenexit77
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Message 3 of 8 (18656)
09-30-2002 10:22 PM


Well the whole thing seems like a contradiction: how does one go about being an individual and independent, by someone else's command? The phrase "Be yourself" and variations upon it are still very common - even in a Dr. Pepper ad of all places. So everyone in the country is trying to be an individual because they think it's what they're supposed to do...it's what they're told to do. Hmm. By the way, I am not a communist. I just find the situation humorous.

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Andya Primanda
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Message 4 of 8 (18695)
10-01-2002 6:31 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by hiddenexit77
09-30-2002 10:22 PM


This may be another naturalistic fallacy, but aren't we already individuals in some sort? We're not bacteria. My genes are different from yours. So whats wrong with an innate individuality?

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hiddenexit77
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Message 5 of 8 (18778)
10-01-2002 11:29 PM


That's exactly my point...if we are already individuals, which i believe we are, then why do we need people commanding us to be ourselves? You can't force the spontaneous. It has become more limiting than liberating...we constantly worry about whether or not we are being ourselves, and suppress natural urges to conform.

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Philip
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Message 6 of 8 (18805)
10-02-2002 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by hiddenexit77
10-01-2002 11:29 PM


quote:
Originally posted by hiddenexit77:
That's exactly my point...if we are already individuals, which i believe we are, then why do we need people commanding us to be ourselves? You can't force the spontaneous. It has become more limiting than liberating...we constantly worry about whether or not we are being ourselves, and suppress natural urges to conform.
When you (your psyche/individual nature) resurrects every moment, today and tomorrow, who is that really?
Did I bring any individualism into the world; will I take it with me when I go out?
Am I autonomous for God or the devil? Who's really pulling the strings.
What is American culture? Another mask like all other cultures? Define (anyone) the term.
How would the naturalist respond?: It's arbitrary randomness.
How would some fundamentalist YEC respond?: It (your individuality) keeps resurrecting and becomes fruitful, productive, redeemed, etc. (and hosts of other metaphysical and biblical terms).
The Bible would support Christ's free-servant (note the paradox); as if to conclude: free to be the Lamb's servant, to rise higher (like an Eagle) into the Heavenly places, the Holy of Holies, the place where pure-love and redemptive judgements abide.
America as a culture supports charity, in some areas, via tax write offs and other forces. Charity seems to enhance free spirits -- the act of sacrificing/giving (time, energy, money, etc.) to the poor, etc., liberates, uplifts, and wins souls. The forces of charity liberates Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Atheists, and all. All men seem to respect charity in my less-than-meager observations.
American culture, while lacking charity(s) in many areas, enhances individualistic greed, avarice, selfishness, and other self-destructive behaviors, while overemphasizing hypocracy, competition, and other masks of sin (against Heaven in the sight of men).
As a whole, I wouldn't trade American culture for a full-time missionary resurrection; but, what do I know about raising from the dead, rapturing on high, being made free from the law of sin, decay, and death?
Charity must be the most redeeming force on individuals wouldn't you say?

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Andya Primanda
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Message 7 of 8 (18960)
10-03-2002 4:11 AM
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10-02-2002 2:22 AM


I agree enthusiastically. One of the main pillars of my religion happen to be charity, and we even got strict rules to ensure that wealth gets evenly distributed.

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hiddenexit77
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Message 8 of 8 (19157)
10-06-2002 3:30 AM


what does this have to do with the topic at hand?

  
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