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Author Topic:   Resident Evil Apocalypse is better than women
One_Charred_Wing
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Message 1 of 170 (141757)
09-12-2004 1:09 PM


I've been busy all last two weeks, but yesterday I had one of the best days of my life so far; it was easily the best in recent memory. There were many reasons for this, including going undefeated in a tournament of some kind, but another little boost of morale was seeing Resident Evil:Apocalypse. The day before we got thrown out of it, but this time we managed to sneak in and screw the system, and man did it rock everything! However, I was unfortunately seeing it on a terrible blind date, and I must say I enjoyed the movie much more than this whiney, stupid cretin that I had to see it with; I personally felt more sexually attracted to Nemesis(character in the movie) than her by the end of it, but if you saw him in action you wouldn't blame me!
Anyway, the topic of debate is: Which is better, RE:A or a bad blind date? In an objective analysis I have to go with the former, but I wanted to see what an intellectual and experienced crowd would have to say about this. I'll start with some evidence to back up my statement:
REA can: Show an awesome motorcycle scene involving a superhuman with guns
Blind date can:Ruin the awesome moment by saying that the actress is a stupid ugly slut, ignoring the fact who plays a character like this cannot change the awesomeness level.
REA can't:Seem to give Jill's character any reasonable dialoge in the first 40 minutes or so.
Blind date can't:Shut the hell up.
REA can:Show some serious action scenes that are so intense I hardly noticed the fact that the camera shook too much.
Blind date can:Scream at every scene with monsters, and say 'oh my God, this is so scary' when I'm busy watching well-intended renegade mercenaries just trying to crack some skull. Poor mercenaries...
REA can:Make me laugh and think 'holy f**k that was awesome' on numerous occasions, and managed to make the most believeable female badass(those last three words rarely go together) since Kill Bill's protagonist.
Blind date can:Ask me to get her a refill for her coke during a riot at the very end of the movie involving a gattling gun, helicopters, a rocket launcher, and a superhuman.
I came to the conclusion that RE was better. Anyone agree or disagree?
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Message 2 of 170 (141788)
09-12-2004 2:58 PM


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nator
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Message 3 of 170 (141933)
09-12-2004 11:59 PM
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09-12-2004 1:09 PM


Hmm, all I thought by the end of your story was,
"Well, I'll bet the woman he was supposed to have been on a date with is glad it's over because, man, he was completely self-centered."

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Message 4 of 170 (141934)
09-13-2004 12:04 AM
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09-12-2004 1:09 PM


Regarding RE:A, Rodger Ebert said:
"The only reason this movie was made was to make money, and the only reason to see it is to spend money."

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crashfrog
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Message 5 of 170 (141939)
09-13-2004 12:54 AM
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09-12-2004 11:59 PM


"Well, I'll bet the woman he was supposed to have been on a date with is glad it's over because, man, he was completely self-centered."
I don't think his attitude was entirely out of line. It costs a shitload to see a movie these days; far too much to miss parts of the movie because your date wouldn't behave like a civilized audience-goer.

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Message 6 of 170 (141943)
09-13-2004 1:17 AM
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09-13-2004 12:54 AM


Perhaps the problem is that they were both concerned with their own needs and desires and were unwilling to consider the other.
F'rinstance, wasn't there any discussion about what movie to see? Why on earth go to see a movie she clearly disliked? You got kicked out the first time (and remember, crash, they didn't pay for this movie as was directly stated...they sneaked in.) Why on earth were you two going back to see something one of you clearly had a problem with?
If she wouldn't be quiet, why wasn't she politely asked to be quiet?
And yes, I find it highly rude to ask somebody to leave the theatre on a personal request that can be accomplished on one's own right at a climactic scene. And if she was truly detesting this movie, one would think she would have jumped at a chance to leave the theatre in order to get away from it.
It seems the two of you didn't like each other and this movie simply became a way for the two of you to make it crystal clear that you didn't.

Rrhain
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Message 7 of 170 (141945)
09-13-2004 1:22 AM
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09-13-2004 1:17 AM


(and remember, crash, they didn't pay for this movie as was directly stated...they sneaked in.)
Oops, you're right. My bad.
You're certainly right that the choice of a movie that not everybody was on board for was inconsiderate. A considerate host, as one should be on a date, chooses activites that all the guests will enjoy.

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Message 8 of 170 (141964)
09-13-2004 2:38 AM


Snuck in?
I was under the impression the 'sneakin in' referred to the act of getting a ticket and not being 17 years old, I may be wrong, but isn't b2p 16? Thus can't buy a ticket. He was probably asked for ID the first time and not the second. But I am expending too much energy thinking about this already...

One_Charred_Wing
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Message 9 of 170 (141965)
09-13-2004 2:40 AM


Clarifications
Okay, first of all we DID pay for tickets. Or more like I did. Ipaid for us to see Bourne Supremacy so we can get through the door and so I wouldn't feel like I was cheating the theatre. Afterwards I got her a large coke and a bag of M'Ms and a large popcorn which she ate well over half of, and by then I didn't have enough money left to pay for that slurpee that I wanted. Then we we saw the movie and the rest is in the OP.
Also, when I got kicked out the day before I was with some friends. Didn't work on opening night because they were carding at the entrance and then right before the movie started in the individual theatre. This time I went on a blind date who wanted to see it. I asked her what she wanted to see and that was what she said. Please don't make me look like a jerk.
Oh, and I'll admit to acting like an idiot by not expecting Schrafinator to respond to the message...
(EDITED IN)
By the way, Ebert is a stuck up old guy who has no taste for action. Who cares if it's not encompased by logic? It's a MOVIE that's meant to be all about mindless adrenaline; why expect more out of it?
One last thing: Please try to stay on topic instead of making like a creo and picking on Mr. Preach:
Which is better, a bad blind date or RE: A?
This message has been edited by Born2Preach, 09-13-2004 01:45 AM

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Message 10 of 170 (141971)
09-13-2004 3:06 AM


This topic fits quite nicely into my experience on Friday. I went on a blind date with someone to see the movie. I am now convinced that my parents and her parents intended for something to happen.
(1) Her parents and my parents suddenly openned up a dialogue a week ago after about 5 years of silence with each other.
(2) She has a car yet her parents asked me to drive her home sometimes and even offered to pay for the gas.
(3) Her mom called me in my dorm room and started questioning about me.
(4) My parents told me that they thought I needed a Vietnamese "friend".
(5) Out of the blue, she contacted me and mentioned about going out to do something... like to dinner.
(6) Last time we saw each other was like 7 years ago. She was mean to me and my cousin because we didn't speak English back then. Although this was all in the past, there's something in my mind that is still saying "warning: probable danger up ahead!"
(7) She dressed up really nicely... actually she dressed up really sexy to go to see Resident Evil with me. Suffice it to say, my alarm was on red alert because I didn't know what her intentions were.
(8) If this was a set up, it was not the first time my parents have tried to set me up with someone. In fact, my parents set my brother up with a girl that later became his wife.
(9) She and I are the only Vietnamese left in our area that are (a) around the age of 20, (b) not married, (c) Catholics [nobody knows I'm an atheist now], (d) in college, meaning well educated, and (e) supposedly fresh.
(10) She tripped and fell, forcing me to extend my arms, grabbed her, and, for about 2 seconds, kept her in my arms. May be I am paranoid... I still can't think of anything that could have made her trip like that.
With that said, the movie scared me, but the facts surrounding our "date" scared me even more.
By the way, I probed her a lot... I mean intellectually, of course. I can't say for certain, but my assessment of her after our initial encounter is that she was an intellectual dud. May be she was just shy or something, but I couldn't get her to engage in any kind of coherent discussion about anything.
Anyway, the movie went by rather quickly, which is what I like. I don't want to see sex or one of those scenes where they cry on each other's shoulders. I want to see actions, more actions, and nothing but actions. That's what I saw in R.E.A.

The Laminator
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For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

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One_Charred_Wing
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Message 11 of 170 (141972)
09-13-2004 3:09 AM
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09-13-2004 3:06 AM


Another point for the home team?
So I guess you agree with me that the movie beats a bad blind date?
If so, high five!

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Message 12 of 170 (142010)
09-13-2004 10:41 AM
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09-13-2004 2:40 AM


Re: Clarifications
quote:
By the way, Ebert is a stuck up old guy who has no taste for action.
Um, I don't think so. How long have you been reading his reviews, junior? It's been about 20 years for me.
Ebert LOVES action films, and gives very fair reviews. I don't always agree with him, but to say he doesn't like action movies is just not true. He loved all of the Laura Croft movies, which I thought were pretty mediocre, and he supports nearly every single movie that comes out that is based upon a comic book. He really liked "28 Days Later", "Hellboy", the Spiderman movies, "Alien", and others.
You do know that he wrote "Beyond the Valley of the Dolls", don't you?
He just doesn't like bad movies. Are you telling me that RE:A is actually a good movie?
Oh, and as for him being "old and stuck up", his "young" parner Roeper gave it a thumbs down, too, as did just about every other movie reviewer. Are ALL of them old and stuck up?
quote:
It's a MOVIE that's meant to be all about mindless adrenaline; why expect more out of it?
Because it costs the same for me to go see a good movie than it does to go see a bad movie. I wouldn't care if the bad movies only cost a quarter to get into. The more people go to see crap movies the more crap movies they will make.
Anyway, I think the last paragraph of his review is good, but the last line is especially good:
Page not found - Chicago Sun-Times
What I was missing were more of the mutants from the first picture, where they were little monsters with 9-foot tongues. They have a walk-on (or maybe a lick-on) in the sequel, but it's no big deal. "Resident Evil: Apocalypse" could have used them, but then this is a movie that could have used anything. The violence is all video-game target practice, the zombies are a bore, we never understand how Umbrella hopes to make money with a virus that kills everyone, and the characters are spectacularly shallow. Parents: If you encounter teenagers who say they liked this movie, do not let them date your children.

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jar
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Message 13 of 170 (142030)
09-13-2004 11:26 AM


Oh, the troubles of youth.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Message 14 of 170 (142033)
09-13-2004 11:30 AM
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09-13-2004 11:26 AM


Nice ape there.

The Laminator
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For goodness's sake, please vote Democrat this November!

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jar
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Message 15 of 170 (142045)
09-13-2004 11:52 AM
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09-13-2004 11:30 AM


Way OT but WTH.
He is, isn't he. His name is Sultan and I have another one of him making a longer stick to get food from off a perch. They set up food that was too high to reach with any of the available sticks. But some sticks were small enough to be inserted into larger diameter ones to make a long stick. It took Sultan about ten minutes to figure out how to make a stick long enough to get to the food.
Not just using tools but making them.
and for the topic....
No, this is a bad day

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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