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Author Topic:   Devolution (from The Fall) and "No New Information"
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Message 1 of 2 (518075)
08-03-2009 11:05 PM


After a discussion with Smooth Operator on another thread, I would like to propose a new thread dealing with the concepts of "The Fall" and "No New Information."
Some folks here are firm believers in "Devolution" and the concept that no new information can be created; everything can and must go downhill because of "The Fall."
A few deny that their belief in devolution is related to The Fall. In response to my post in the What is an ID proponent's basis of comparison? (edited) thread, Smooth Operator responds to my post:
quote:
You are arguing that biology always results in a loss of information because of a belief in "The Fall" or whatever you want to call it.
I'm not a Christian, now go away. You are going off topic. Go and discuss religion somewhere else.
EvC Forum: What is an ID proponent's basis of comparison? (edited)
In another post on that thread, Smooth Operator wrote: "New genes do not equal new information."
Because this would be off topic on that thread, I would like to propose a thread to explore how one could come to the belief in devolution/no new information without a religious, and in particular a biblical, background.
I see no convincing evidence in the scientific or popular scientific literature for this position. Mainstream science has, in fact, concluded just the opposite. On the other hand, a number of people and denominations interpret the bible in such a way as to support this belief.
But if one does not acquire this devolution/no new information belief through religion, as Smooth Operator attests, or from mainstream science, from where does it come?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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08-04-2009 12:43 AM


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