Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 64 (9164 total)
5 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,839 Year: 4,096/9,624 Month: 967/974 Week: 294/286 Day: 15/40 Hour: 0/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Convergent Evolution - Reasonable conclusion? or convenient excuse?
BobTHJ
Member (Idle past 5025 days)
Posts: 119
Joined: 06-02-2010


Message 1 of 2 (563844)
06-07-2010 2:36 AM


As requested by Taq in Message 147 of Biological classification vs 'Kind', this thread is for the examination of case studies in convergent evolution to demonstrate the validity (or lack thereof) of the independent evolution of similar structures.
My assertion: Convergent evolution is a convenient way for darwinists to explain exceptions to the supposed nested hierarchy that forms the phylogenetic tree. When similar structures are detected in different clades darwinists rationalize it away as convergent evolution - instead of making the more reasonable conclusion that not all life fits into a neatly nested hierarchy of traits.
As an initial case study for discussion, consider echolocation in bats and dolphins. According to this January 2010 Science Daily article both bats and dolphins share almost identical genes for echolocation. The statistical odds of the exact same mutations being selected in both species to form a working echolocating sense is nearly impossible - yet according to this research this seems to be the case. Wouldn't a much more reasonable conclusion be a common Designer re-using a created feature?
I don't see anyone claiming recent common ancestry between bats and dolphins - yet genetic similarities of the same sort are used to show common ancestry between humans and chimpanzees. Why draw a conclusion of common ancestry for one case but not the other? Or is the data simply inconvenient because it doesn't fit the darwinian model?
Edited by BobTHJ, : fix tag error

Adminnemooseus
Administrator
Posts: 3976
Joined: 09-26-2002


Message 2 of 2 (563851)
06-07-2010 3:15 AM


Thread Copied to Biological Evolution Forum
Thread copied to the Convergent Evolution - Reasonable conclusion? or convenient excuse? thread in the Biological Evolution forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024