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Message 1 of 2 (585777)
10-09-2010 6:13 PM


A pretty common assertion that comes up around here is that Revelations 13 describes some coming world wide financial system.
Here is an example of the assertions:
Buz writes:
Biblically/prophetically, this is on tract, corroborating other end time prophecies. Why? Because it is prophesied in the book of Revelation, chapter 13 that all nations, tribes and tongues will, in the apocalyptic end times be required to buy or sell via marks and numbers implanted in the right hand or forehead.
I see this as relevant to what's going on. All global currencies will fail, necessitating a global monetary system in which all money is globally regulated and secured by a global government so as to be totally safe from theft and/or inflation. Christians are forbidden to receive this mark; thus the great tribulation and global persecution of Christians (also prophesied by Jesus and the apostles).
from: Message 46
Here is the passage from Revelations 13:
quote:
16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
Let's look at this passage.
First, everybody gets the same number and the number does NOT identify the individual but rather "The Beast". There is no mention that this is some substitute for money or goods or any other method of buying or selling.
Second, everybody gets the number. There is nothing in the passage about Christians being forbidden to get the "Mark".
So let's see if there is anyway that this passage could be talking about money, currency, that buying or selling is "via marks and numbers implanted in the right hand or forehead"?
As mentioned above, the mark is the same for every person. It does not identify the individual or any account or currency, it just identifies "The Second Beast". There is no way it can be used to effect some transaction.
Second, is there anything that says Christians would not be allowed to have the "Mark"?
Nope. In fact it says that everyone gets the "Mark", not that everyone but Christians get the "Mark'.
So we have two strikes, it is not an identification that could replace currency and it is not something that Christians are not allowed to have.
So maybe it says something about "All global currencies will fail, necessitating a global monetary system in which all money is globally regulated and secured by a global government so as to be totally safe from theft and/or inflation"?
Nope yet again.
No mention of all global currencies failing, no mention of a global monetary system (which of course has existed as long as humans have traded crap), no mention of money being regulated or secured by a global government or that somehow that would prevent theft or inflation.
Maybe it talks about implants? Shuckie Darn, it says "a mark on his right hand or on his forehead".
Golly Gee Whiz, yet another strike.
So is there any support for the claim that Revelations 13 contains ANY prophecy related to some future monetary system?
Bible A&I please.
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10-09-2010 9:07 PM


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