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Taz
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Message 1 of 16 (631966)
09-04-2011 10:37 PM


The purpose of this thread is to allow buzsaw and other creationists to explain the concept of the water canopy above the Earth before the flood and why they think such a layer of liquid up above is even possible, given what we know now how fluid mechanics work.
From time to time, I have heard various creationists, including Kent Hovind, make the claim that before the flood people lived a lot longer because there was a layer of water up above the Earth that prevented the sun's deadly rays from reaching the surface. That's pretty much all that I have heard from their explanation.
I'd like to see creationists explain this further and why they think the atmospheric pressure resulting from the existence of such a water layer in the atmosphere wouldn't crush every living being on Earth.

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Message 2 of 16 (632011)
09-05-2011 8:08 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-04-2011 10:37 PM


Buzsaw is no longer permitted to participate in the science threads. Do you still want this proposal considered?

--Percy
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Taz
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Message 3 of 16 (632035)
09-05-2011 11:54 AM
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09-05-2011 8:08 AM


Well, put it somewhere where he can participate. I've been hearing the water canopy mentioned from time to time, but no one has ever explained clearly how it worked. Speaking as an engineer, I know that something like that has disaster written all over it. But I'd like to hear what buzsaw and others who support this "theory" to explain more to the rest of us how the water canopy worked.

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Message 4 of 16 (632037)
09-05-2011 12:06 PM
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09-05-2011 11:54 AM


Taz writes:
Well, put it somewhere where he can participate.
Scientific discussions related to the creation/evolution debate can only take place in the science forums. Buzsaw is restricted from participation in the science forums at EvC Forum until he can reach a consensus with others here as to the nature of scientific evidence.

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Message 5 of 16 (632058)
09-05-2011 1:58 PM
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09-05-2011 12:06 PM


Put it in the theology section then. I don't care. All I want is an explanation about this water canopy thing. It's not like we're forbidden to bring up the behavior of water in the theology forum.

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Message 6 of 16 (632063)
09-05-2011 2:06 PM
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09-05-2011 1:58 PM


Calling AdminPD, AdminPhat
Taz would like his thread proposal considered for one of the religious forums.

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Message 7 of 16 (632089)
09-05-2011 3:42 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Taz
09-04-2011 10:37 PM


Theological Creationism/ID Forum: The Word of God is the strongest evidence for divine creation and intelligent intercession in the universe.
Reasoned argumentation is required, not scientific evidence.
Being respectful of beliefs is also required.
Do you think you can keep control of the thread and not let it turn into a religion bashing event?

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Message 8 of 16 (632115)
09-05-2011 7:03 PM
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09-05-2011 3:42 PM


Yes.
The real question is do you think you can be a little unbiased?

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Message 9 of 16 (632123)
09-05-2011 8:12 PM
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09-05-2011 7:03 PM


Unfortunately you would need to tell me which way you feel my bias is flowing before I can answer that.
AdminPD
Edited by AdminPD, : No reason given.

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Message 10 of 16 (632126)
09-05-2011 8:28 PM
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09-05-2011 8:12 PM


Just promote the damn thread.

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Message 11 of 16 (632131)
09-05-2011 8:47 PM
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09-05-2011 8:28 PM


Not until you tell me what I am bias for or against.
You've called me the most biased and asked if I could be a little unbiased.
One cannot adjust behavior if one doesn't know what to change or if it is changeable.
Thanks AdminPD

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Message 12 of 16 (632133)
09-05-2011 8:58 PM
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09-05-2011 8:47 PM


You are the bestest, non-biased admin ever. You are so great.

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Message 13 of 16 (632136)
09-05-2011 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Taz
09-05-2011 8:58 PM


Calling AdminPhat
Taz replying to AdminPD writes:
The real question is do you think you can be a little unbiased?
...
Just promote the damn thread.
...
You are the bestest, non-biased admin ever. You are so great.
I'm a little surprised and taken aback. I'm going to request that AdminPD not promote this thread. It's still her call, but that's my preference.
I don't understand your reaction, but maybe AdminPhat is aware of something going on in the religious threads that I'm unaware of, so I'm calling this thread proposal to his attention. We don't need a thread that is a moderation problem before it is even promoted.

--Percy
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Taz
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Message 14 of 16 (632142)
09-05-2011 11:12 PM


I don't understand. What other kind words do you want me to say? This is not rocket science. All I'm asking for is a place for buzsaw and whoever else to explain to me/us what the water canopy was and how it worked.

Taz
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Message 15 of 16 (632297)
09-06-2011 9:41 PM


Ok, I apologize for misbehaving earlier. It's obvious that this thread will remain in limbo for a while. So, let me just say that you guys are doing great. No bias that I can see. All admins are perfect.
Now, would you please promote this thread?

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