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m.maunas
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Message 1 of 6 (665206)
06-10-2012 8:15 AM


The Divine Embryo:
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Message 2 of 6 (665208)
06-10-2012 8:37 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by m.maunas
06-10-2012 8:15 AM


That looked more like a manifesto or a rant than a debate proposal. I see that it is not original to this forum either, though I don't find any debate about it anywhere. So I don't think you want to debate it. That makes this the wrong site for this material. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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m.maunas
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From: kanpur
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Message 3 of 6 (665225)
06-10-2012 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by AdminModulous
06-10-2012 8:37 AM


Re
Hi,
AdminModulous,i agree with the first part of your observation that-
"That looked more like a manifesto or a rant than a debate proposal. I see that it is not original to this forum either, though I don't find any debate about it anywhere.But as regards the second part of your statement i want to say that i want to post in this forum because I wish to debate it and have the views of other people on at least some parts of my rant like- Man is the sole God at this point of time and space because no one has travelled from the future or past or any other part of the universe to guide or rule us. God is destiny of man because practically intelligent life exists only on Earth. Individual human beings are living units of embryo of god and are required to organize themselves through morally right interactions for his manifestation. The casual effects in this universe form a continuum and life is subjective view of one part of this transformation continuum. So the singularity of the Big Bang most probably existed because a previous universe existed. Absolute nonexistence i.e non existence in spacetime, in singularity,in memory, in thoughts, in possible ideas and imaginations, with no particles or symbols or any other form of energy, matter or force traces associated ever and anywhere in space time or singularity or multiverse with the destruct body, and with no possibility of it being talked about or chance of coming in to existence would be ultimate destruction or NOTHINGNESS, but this is simply not possible because the destroying agency itself will have to become non existent so that no associates of the destroyed body exists,not even the brain which thought and knew about this destruction, not even the time and space which was associated with the absent body or freed by the absence of the body should exist. And so this previous universe came from a still previous universe and so on infinitely.In conclusion we exist because we exist and therefore we are in the process of becoming the god who will fill the information in the next cosmic egg for the existence and evolution of the next universe.WE ARE OUR SELF THE REASON BEHIND OUR EXISTENCE. All disturbances are immortal because energy is immortal and so consciousness is immortal and immortality has sense only when it is infinite. At the end of time of the present universe all consciousnesses which ever occured since the birth of the present universe will have their influence in filling the next cosmic egg with the information for the existence and evolution of the next universe.God is able to recreate himself again and again through the infinite consciousness packed in the cosmic egg.
If you see any way that the article can be modulated/edited so as to be eligible for publication on your site,please inform me. Thanks
for your enlightening response.

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Message 4 of 6 (665241)
06-10-2012 2:55 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by m.maunas
06-10-2012 12:20 PM


Re: Re
Hi M.Maunas,
I see two problems. First, your presentation is horrible. You need to use paragraphs (blank line between paragraphs), you need to include spaces after punctuation, and you need to use the dBCodes for quotes. In your message it was impossible to tell where your quote of AdminModulous ended and your own text began.
Second, what we're looking for here at EvC Forum is reasoned positions supported with evidence. Here's a list of the bald assertions (meaning no supporting evidence or reasonable argument) from your last message:
  1. Man is the sole God at this point of time and space because no one has travelled from the future or past or any other part of the universe to guide or rule us.
    You really want to argue that man is God because no one rules us?
  2. God is destiny of man because practically intelligent life exists only on Earth.
    First you want to argue that man is God, now you want to argue that God is man's destiny?
    And you baldly assert that intelligent life exists only Earth. After we've visited hundreds, or at least tens, of planets and found life on nary a one I guess that might be a reasonable position, but now?
  3. Individual human beings are living units of embryo of god...
    First you want to argue that man is God, then you want to argue that God is man's destiny, and now you want to argue that man comprises living units of a God embryo?
  4. ...and are required to organize themselves through morally right interactions for his manifestation.
    You need evidence for this requirement that man must organize around morally right interactions before God will manifest himself.
  5. The casual effects in this universe form a continuum and life is subjective view of one part of this transformation continuum.
    I assume you meant "causal"? This is all one sentence, so I assume you intended a connection between a continuum of causal effects and life as a subjective view of this continuum, but no such connection is apparent, and "life as a subjective view" has no clear meaning anyway.
  6. So the singularity of the Big Bang most probably existed because a previous universe existed.
    How does the presence of a singularity lead to the conclusion that a previous universe existed?
  7. Absolute nonexistence i.e non existence in spacetime, in singularity,in memory, in thoughts, in possible ideas and imaginations, with no particles or symbols or any other form of energy, matter or force traces associated ever and anywhere in space time or singularity or multiverse with the destruct body, and with no possibility of it being talked about or chance of coming in to existence would be...
    My God, at last, a verb!
    ...ultimate destruction or NOTHINGNESS, but this is simply not possible because the destroying agency itself will have to become non existent so that no associates of the destroyed body exists,not even the brain which thought and knew about this destruction, not even the time and space which was associated with the absent body or freed by the absence of the body should exist.
    Gesundheit! If this isn't nonsense then you've got considerable explaining to do.
  8. And so this previous universe came from a still previous universe and so on infinitely.
    Simply because you believe there was a singularity prior to the Big Bang? I think you need to provide additional reasoning.
  9. In conclusion we exist because we exist...
    And am I thirsty because I'm thirsty? You might want to explore why we exist a bit more deeply.
  10. ...and therefore we are in the process of becoming the god who will fill the information in the next cosmic egg for the existence and evolution of the next universe.
    You might want to open with this. It would help people make more sense of what comes later.
  11. WE ARE OUR SELF THE REASON BEHIND OUR EXISTENCE.
    Same problem as the first time you said this.
  12. All disturbances are immortal because energy is immortal and so consciousness is immortal and immortality has sense only when it is infinite.
    You've offered no supporting evidence whatsoever of this..
  13. At the end of time of the present universe all consciousnesses which ever occured since the birth of the present universe will have their influence in filling the next cosmic egg with the information for the existence and evolution of the next universe.
    You've offered no supporting evidence whatsoever of this either.
  14. God is able to recreate himself again and again through the infinite consciousness packed in the cosmic egg.
    Once again, you've offered no supporting evidence whatsoever of this. It's just another bald assertion.
M.Maunas, I'm afraid I'm going to be a bit harsh now. Either English is not your native language, or you never received a grade on an essay above a D. In either case I don't think you're a good candidate for discussions here at EvC Forum. Sorry.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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m.maunas
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From: kanpur
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Message 5 of 6 (665246)
06-10-2012 4:02 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by Admin
06-10-2012 2:55 PM


Re: Re
Thank you very much for opening my eyes towards my nerdiness. I
am grateful that you took pains to educate me.
You were not at all harsh,instead,you were very gentle and sophisticated.
You are right, English is not my native language,but,i now understand that i am uneducated in grammar and logic for any language. Thank you onceagain.

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Message 6 of 6 (665262)
06-10-2012 5:32 PM
Reply to: Message 5 by m.maunas
06-10-2012 4:02 PM


Re: Re
Sorry, M.Maunas, but we have not had good experiences here with non-native speakers of English. The discussion soon turns from the topic to trying to figure out what is being said and eventually to complete chaos.

--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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