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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Just a moment...
quote: Loss of upward mobility, loss of life savings and retirement plan value, loss of property in foreclosures, and general inability to manage to get ahead in today's economy at a time in life when you normally evaluate how well off you are, and whether you can prepare to retire in comfort ... and a significant proportion of the population coming to the conclusion that the answer is "No" ... Income inequality built on the disastrous republican "trickle-down" economic scam\fraud\fallacy ... people deciding (this is pre ACA) that they can't afford health insurance ... people being overworked and underpaid and work being high stress environments. This is only recorded in the US, and the US has the highest income inequality ... coincidence? That's my take.by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Perhaps its because we're being told so often, and in so many ways, that "white lives don't matter."
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
Coyote writes: Perhaps its because we're being told so often, and in so many ways, that "white lives don't matter." I guess I didn't get the memo. Could you list just the top three of the many ways we're told white lives don't matter?"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Wear a "White lives matter" t-shirt or placard on most any college campus and you'd be lucky to get out alive.
In most inner cities you wouldn't get out alive, and in many of those, just being white would get you killed.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Could you list just the top three of the many ways we're told white lives don't matter? Curiously I remember that we were always told that you'd never get anywhere without a college degree, and what we see from this study is that those with BA or higher did not see an increase in deaths and poor health, that it is the blue-collar workers. People ripe for TeaPublican propaganda and that want their country back -- they see that the "American Dream" has passed them by. Those that voted republican against their own better interests because GOP scam after scam after scam. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
This thread is not about racism, latent racism or reverse racism, it is about middle-class whites reaching middle-age and seeing that over the last 30 years they never got ahead in spite of their hard work, because the economy kept siphoning it all to the top 1%. Their dreams died, their hope died.
It isn't {color} lives matter, it is people working 2 or 3 jobs at poverty wages and lower just to tread water, and not getting any respect. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Perhaps its because we're being told so often, and in so many ways, that "white lives don't matter." Curiously this phenomenon has occurred after the end of the data in this study. If this is making you feel suicidal, IM me to talk or contact any of the help sources readily available. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
If this is making you feel suicidal, IM me to talk or contact any of the help sources readily available. Nice try. But very lame.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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Omnivorous writes: Coyote writes: Perhaps its because we're being told so often, and in so many ways, that "white lives don't matter." I guess I didn't get the memo. Could you list just the top three of the many ways we're told white lives don't matter? Coyote writes: Wear a "White lives matter" t-shirt or placard on most any college campus and you'd be lucky to get out alive. In most inner cities you wouldn't get out alive, and in many of those, just being white would get you killed. Seriously? That's all you've got? What happened to "so often, and in so many ways"? I know you won't debate these issues in depth, preferring to sling drive-by xenophobic turds and move on. But the Black Lives Matter movement presses the point that black lives matter, period; why is that so offensive to you? White America would not accept an equivalent casualty rate of unarmed white youth at the hands of the police. Why is this such an existential threat to you that it would require an old man parading on campus in a T shirt saying anything? If you don't think black students at college experience sufficient racial taunting already, you should diversify your news sources, turn off the rightwing echo chamber and get out more. The data clearly link the higher death rate to economic downturns which are especially sharp among less educated white people. Why did you see the need to bring other races into the equation at all? Do you think they are faring better? Are you checking for blacks under your bed yet?"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2106 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
There is nothing in your post worthy of a reply.
Care to try again?
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
Coyote writes: There is nothing in your post worthy of a reply. Care to try again? I'm often wrong when I speak. Sometimes I make assertions that don't bear scrutiny; sometimes I let my emotions overstate my case. But I'm always willing to subject my reasoning to public display and dispute. You are not. So, no, I don't care to try again. I'll admit that you can't be prodded into attempting a defense of the indefensible. I hope you come to see better."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 284 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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No, I think Coyote's put his finger on it. White people are so despondent at the very suggestion that it might be undesirable to murder black people that they're offing themselves in droves. They really had nothing else keeping them going except the thought that if they could only manage to shoot One Of Them Black Nigras, they'd be instant celebrities lauded by Fox News as heroes ... wait, that's still what would happen, isn't it? But white people are such sensitive souls that a few black people with placards drove them to alcoholism and suicide ... but only if they're middle-aged. Of course RAZD with his so-called liberal "logic" will point out that causes usually precede effects, but conservative whining has transcended even more definite facts than the directionality of time, so I don't see why we should start taking that into account now.
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