Everyone is doing it!

The fact that most of the world's scientists agree with the Theory of evolution is a mute point. As I like to say, 'The Masses Are Asses.' Now I am obviously kidding, as most people are not murderers and that is not an assinine thing. But just because everyone says something, does that make it true? In the middle ages, the world was thought to be flat, rats were thought to come from garbage, etc... Now we know these things are incorrect thinking. The point I am trying to make is this: Scientists are people too, not infalliable and incapable of being prejudiced.

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The fact that most of the world's scientists agree with the Theory of evolution is a mute point. As I like to say, 'The Masses Are Asses.' Now I am obviously kidding, as most people are not murderers and that is not an assinine thing. But just because everyone says something, does that make it true? In the middle ages, the world was thought to be flat, rats were thought to come from garbage, etc... Now we know these things are incorrect thinking. The point I am trying to make is this: Scientists are people too, not infalliable and incapable of being prejudiced.

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The system of science has correction methods built into it. A scientist isn't likely to pass on the opportunity to show that another scientist is wrong.One of the earlier scientific corrections was that the Earth wasn't 6 to 10 thousand years old. Another was that there is no evidence that a major flooding of the continents has happened in the last 5000 or so years.Moose------------------
BS degree, geology, '83
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Old Earth evolution - Yes
Godly creation - Maybe
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TAKE IT EASY ON THE NEW POSTS - CONSIDER IF THERE IS AN EXISTING TOPIC FOR WHAT YOU WISH TO SAY. I'LL LEAVE IT TO THE ALL POWERFUL MAIN ADMIN, TO COME DOWN ON YOU, IF HE WISHES.Adminnemooseus (Moose operating in admin mode)[This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 08-31-2002]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by JJboy:
[B] The fact that most of the world's scientists agree with the Theory of evolution is a mute point.[QUOTE] It's a "moot" point, not "mute" point. [QUOTE]As I like to say, 'The Masses Are Asses.' Now I am obviously kidding, as most people are not murderers and that is not an assinine thing. But just because everyone says something, does that make it true?

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No, but then again, most everyone doesn't consider evidence and use the scientific method the way that scientists do, either.

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[QUOTE]In the middle ages, the world was thought to be flat, rats were thought to come from garbage, etc... Now we know these things are incorrect thinking. The point I am trying to make is this: Scientists are people too, not infalliable and incapable of being prejudiced.[/B]

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As was mentioned, the scientific method is specifically designed to compensate for fallacious thinking and human bias.The fact that people today believe that creation 'science', astrology and homeopathy have any merit is because most people are not taught to think critically or use the scientific method to evaluate claims.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by schrafinator:The fact that people today believe that creation 'science', astrology and homeopathy have any merit is because most people are not taught to think critically or use the scientific method to evaluate claims.[/B][/QUOTE]Last I heard, the Scientific method involved expirimenting and validifying through measurable expiriments. Believing that we arose from chemical stew with 'Unkown chemicals' in 'unknown circumstances' with 'unknown temperatures' seems highly unsientific. Science is not the End-all argument. I would love to write more, but the clock is ticking, so I am signing off.------------------
Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish.
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I am convinced that He (God) does not play dice.-Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

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Last I heard, the Scientific method involved expirimenting and validifying through measurable expiriments. Believing that we arose from chemical stew with 'Unkown chemicals' in 'unknown circumstances' with 'unknown temperatures' seems highly unsientific. Science is not the End-all argument. I would love to write more, but the clock is ticking, so I am signing off.

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Just because something is unknown now doesn't mean that it will always be unknown. We are discovering new things all of the time through the use of science that we didn't know before. The more science brings to light the less we know of the "Puff, god did it!" nonsense.They're right. The state of science education in grade schools, in the USA, is a joke.Plus, Evolution has absolutely nothing to do with how the universe, or even how life got "started". Evolution is about how we get to be like we are now through gradual change and adaptations.[This message has been edited by nos482, 09-01-2002]

The correct quote of Einstein is"I cannot believe that God would choose to play dice with the universe."Though it is sometimes given as
"God does not play dice with the universe."I find it amusing that creationist so often quote this when Einstein's concept of God was so different from theirs and further Einstein was clearly shown to be wrong about this. His philosophical problem with quantum theory was the source of this statement and all the research done on the subject before and since then shows that God definitely does play dice with the Universe, as least in the sense that Einstein meant. The uncertainly principle rules.Randy

[QUOTE][B]They're right. The state of science education in grade schools, in the USA, is a joke.[/QUOTE][/B]That is true but it's getting rather old as you have been repeating that in all your posts. Also I can't help but notice the presence of Canadian assistant professors in American academia. We have two in our local geosciences department alone so we must be doing something right if they're migrating south . Finally I want to point out that the YEC to which you are responding lives in British Columbia, not the US.I didn't comment on this the first couple of times but after this post I decided it was time to step in.

Originally posted by gene90:That is true but it's getting rather old as you have been repeating that in all your posts.The truth never gets old. Also I can't help but notice the presence of Canadian assistant professors in American academia. We have two in our local geosciences department alone so we must be doing something right if they're migrating south .I suppose that our lower end of the class has to go somewhere. Finally I want to point out that the YEC to which you are responding lives in British Columbia, not the US.Too much American influence.