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randman 
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Message 1 of 5 (239330)
09-01-2005 1:22 AM


Most published scientific research papers are wrong, according to a new analysis. Assuming that the new paper is itself correct, problems with experimental and statistical methods mean that there is less than a 50% chance that the results of any randomly chosen scientific paper are true.
John Ioannidis, an epidemiologist at the University of Ioannina School of Medicine in Greece, says that small sample sizes, poor study design, researcher bias, and selective reporting and other problems combine to make most research findings false. But even large, well-designed studies are not always right, meaning that scientists and the public have to be wary of reported findings.
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True or not?

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09-01-2005 10:30 AM
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09-01-2005 1:22 AM


rejected as it stands.
Highly likely it is true but...
so what? What is there here to discuss?
Did you even read the paragraph following the two you quoted?
Do you even have a clue what the scientific method entails?
I'm sorry randman but you have never been able to show that you have the basic knowledge to even discuss something like this intellegently. I will allow you to try a revision of your OP to show an understanding of the basics but before this is considered for promotion you will have to demonstrate the ability to deal with scientific issues. This is something that would need to be discussed on the science side and at the current time you have not shown either a willingness to learn or the basic understanding of methodology needed.

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09-01-2005 10:45 AM
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09-01-2005 10:30 AM


Re: rejected as it stands.
I think I'm inclinded to promote it in a few dasy when I get back. I don't expect that Randman will be able to actually participate since he will have to be suspended pretty quickly for the reasons you've given. However, I would like to see the topic discussed.

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09-01-2005 10:50 AM
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09-01-2005 10:45 AM


Re: rejected as it stands.
No problem. I think it could be worthy of discussion in the science area but it simply highlights the need for replication and that has been a foundation of science for some time.
Cold Fusion.

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Message 5 of 5 (239978)
09-02-2005 1:58 PM


Thread copied to the most scientific papers are wrong? thread in the Is It Science? forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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