Justification of Science?

Hi there. I am brand new here so I hope I am doing this right. I specifically sought out a forum like this and I hope its the right place to discuss this topic.In another discussion today someone said"it is interesting to see the ways that science backs up religious commands (like circing on day 8 when clotting factor is highest) but some feel like it is using science to justify G-d's commandments when in reality, G-d's commandments should be used to justify science, know what I mean?"The converation was originally about the reasons behind circumcision.But that statement got me thinking. I have never considered before that people thought that God can justify science, I always viewed it in another light. I would like to open a discussion about the statement and get a more diverse set of opinions on it.Is that possible?

Hi Dragoness,This seems a little light as an OP for a topic, but I have to confess that I can't readily see what you could expand beyond giving us some more details of the light in which you have viewed the question.Just add in a little bit more of your own views and I will promote this.TTFN,AWP.S. That clotting factor thing sounds highly dubious to me, I can't find a single reference to any clotting factor which reaches peak level at day 8.

Assuming that the eighth day is indeed the time for circumcision because that is when clotting is best - Having this information hardly requires a divine revelation. All the people of the time would need to do is make some observations themselves. Doing the science of the times.That said, I'm not following your intentions for this topic.Adminnemooseus

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Well I must say that I didn't mean for that statment alone to be the basis for the discussion, just a jumping off place. It seems that as I ventured into the Religion forum at the mommy board I belong to I have noticed that many many people seem to believe that God and the Bible justify everything in science and space and that to believe that science stands for itself is considered "wrong"
The 8 day clotting factor thing was just one such example. It was argued that the REASON boys are circumsized at 8 days after birth is because the clotting factors are at their highest, therefore science justifying God's word. On the other hand it was argued that in the Jewish Faith (the belief in question) the 8th day is very scared and THAT is the reason for circumcision on the 8th day and there is in fact no scientific reason.
I was hoping to discuss the differences in beliefs. Does science speak for itself, or does everything in sciece somehow get justified by God's word?
I was also hoping that the many seeming knowledgable people here could share their views on that because it was the first time I have ever even heard that science was anything other than science.(Sorry if I am scatterbrained, I have 3 kids under 5, so I am no where near as technical as most of the people here but I promise I'm not dumb!)

Hi Dragoness, welcome aboard!I can tell you're somewhat surprised that your simple question is not being well received by moderators. This may be because we're accustomed to those on the side of science already being very familiar with science. As a general rule, those who come here who are unfamiliar with science are creationists or are at least deeply religious.I'm going to release your thread to the [forum=-1] forum, but I'm going to ask participants to focus on the nature of science and on the distinction between scientific knowledge versus religious knowledge. Another way of how I'm thinking about this thread is that it will attempt to answer the question, "What is science, and how is it different from religion?" You're not scatterbrained, but is it really possible that someone with 3 kids under 5 could have time for the Internet?

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	EvC Forum Director

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