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redstang281 Inactive Member |
The website describes how you can do it.
All you have to do is prove evolution is fact.
http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=250k
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TrueCreation Inactive Member |
*ehem* which isn't going to happen... I would equally give thousands if someone could 'prove' it as 'fact'.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Stephan Jay Gould's article on evolution as a fact and evolution as a theory:
http://www.freethought-web.org/ctrl/gould_fact-and-theory.html While absolute proof of the fact of evolution is not achievable, the evidence is very strong in favor of it. By a vast consensus, scientists accept this vast evidence as being valid - they accept evolution as being a fact. If these scientists are the jury, the Hovland challenge has been met (proven to beyond a reasonable doubt). Hovland, however, lets some small minority opinion cause a hung jury. Thus, to him, there is no definitive judgment, and the fact of evolution is not proven. Moose Added by edit (2/4/06) - The above link is no longer good. The same material is available at many sites, including:Evolution is a Fact and a Theory Top Cash Earning Games in India 2022 | Best Online Games to earn real money Top Cash Earning Games in India 2022 | Best Online Games to earn real money Page not found | Harvard Square Library ------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe [This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 01-10-2002] This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 02-04-2006 05:31 PM
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Ah, Kent Hovind (aka "Dr. Dino").
One of "scientific" Creationism's greatest embarrasments. Why, you ask? Because he is a wacko nutcase, that's why! Here is a very informative and funny website devoted to Dr. Dino. Be extra sure to check out the photograph of the impressive facade of the building that houses "Patriot University", which is where the dear doctor ordered-um, er, I mean EARNED after long and careful study, his PhD! Also click on the link above the picture to read the story of someone who actually attempted to claim the unclaimable prize that the dear doctor puts forth. Not surprisingly, the dear doctor has set up his own rules, rather than emperical, scientific rules, on what he will accept as "evidence for evolution", so the prize is unwinnable. A quote from one of the people who attempted to win the prize:
quote: Enjoy!
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Temple/9917/hovind/wild_hovind.html
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Possible difinitive proof of the fact of evolution?
How about if the buildings of all anti-evolutionists are simultaneously struck by lightning (just to get their atention), and a loud, booming voice is heard world wide, saying "Evolution is a fact, you dunderheads!'.
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nator Member (Idle past 2190 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Hent Hovind's credentials, from a list of Creationists with questionable credentials:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html "Kent Hovind is a young-earth creationist who gives frequent public lectures on evolution and creationism. He is well-known for repeating the claim that the remains of a basking shark found by Japanese fishermen off the coast of New Zealand were actually those of a recently deceased plesiosaur. Hovind claims to possess a masters degree and a doctorate in education from Patriot University in Colorado. According to Hovind, his 250-page dissertation was on the topic of the dangers of teaching evolution in the public schools. Formerly affiliated with Hilltop Baptist Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Patriot University is accredited only by the American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions, an accreditation mill that provides accreditation for a $100 charge. Patriot University has moved to Alamosa, Colorado and continues to offer correspondence courses for $15 to $32 per credit. The school's catalog contains course descriptions but no listing of the school'sfaculty or their credentials. Name It and Frame It lists Patriot University as a degree mill [3]."
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: Although that could be conceivable as a goverment effort to cover up the weakness of the theory of evolution.
------------------Old Earth evolution - Yes Godly creation - Maybe [This message has been edited by minnemooseus, 01-10-2002]
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
quote: But an effort of that magnitude and complexity would seem to require inteligent design. That would seem to disqualify the government as having pulled it off. Guess I'd have to default back to believing that it was indeed God's voice.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0 |
Perhaps the important question is, how many of this silly posts do I need to do, to get elevated from junior member to regular member.
Which reminds me, does anyone out there remember the Bill Cosby routine, of Noah talking to God?
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Quetzal Member (Idle past 5892 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
quote: God: "NOAH!"Noah: "What?" God: "I WANT YOU TO BUILD AN ARK." Noah: "Riiiight. What's an ark.?" A classic.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Here are a few more accounts of Hovinds fallacious offer....
http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent_hovind's_bogus_challenge.htm http://home.austarnet.com.au/stear/kent_hovind's_phony_challenge.htm http://www.nmsr.org/HOVIND.HTM#Proverbs
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redstang281 Inactive Member |
Say what you want about Kent Hovind.
The fact is no one can collect the $250,000. "I have a standing offer of $250,000 to anyone who can give any empirical evidence (scientific proof) for evolution.* My $250,000 offer demonstrates that the hypothesis of evolution is nothing more than a religious belief. " Evolution is just a belief.
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joz Inactive Member |
quote: Say what I want huh... He reserves the right to choose the panel that judges the submissions...Presumably to screen out anyone who would actually know empirical evidence if it bit them in the arse... He reserves the right to screen the evidence presented and only show the panel that evidence he chooses to... I`m starting to wonder... a)will the panel consist of a bunch of dyed in the wool creationists? b)will he accept and pass along any evidence that counters his claims? c)does the $250,000 even exist? The offer is to be short spurious....
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edge Member (Idle past 1726 days) Posts: 4696 From: Colorado, USA Joined: |
quote: Well, Kent has never taken up my offer of $1 million to anyone who can prove creationism, either.... That's a fact! Creationism is not even a belief. It is a wish.
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redstang281 Inactive Member |
a)will the panel consist of a bunch of dyed in the wool creationists?
Who would you suggest the panel consist of?
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