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Message 1 of 8 (321007)
06-13-2006 1:35 AM


Today, the Edomites are again in the thick of combat ” of the scholarly kind. The conflict is heated and protracted, as is often the case with issues related to the reliability of the Bible as history.
Chronology is at the crux of the debate. Exactly when did the nomadic tribes of Edom become an organized society with the might to threaten Israel? Were David and Solomon really kings of a state with growing power in the 10th century B.C.? Had writers of the Bible magnified the stature of the two societies at such an early time in history?
An international team of archaeologists has recorded radiocarbon dates that they say show the tribes of Edom may have indeed come together in a cohesive society as early as the 12th century B.C., certainly by the 10th. The evidence was found in the ruins of a large copper-processing center and fortress at Khirbat en-Nahas, in the lowlands of what was Edom and is now part of Jordan.
In a Ruined Copper Works, Evidence That Bolsters a Doubted Biblical Tale - The New York Times
Edited by randman, : better or not?

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Message 2 of 8 (321023)
06-13-2006 3:49 AM
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Not "Coffee House" type material - Sending this to "Proposed New Topics"
1) Needs a better topic title - Work "Edomites" into one.
2) Needs some input from you. What was the controversy before this new information, and how does this new information change things.
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Message 3 of 8 (321027)
06-13-2006 3:50 AM


Thread moved here from the Coffee House forum.

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Message 4 of 8 (321504)
06-14-2006 3:58 PM
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06-13-2006 3:49 AM


Re: Not "Coffee House" type material - Sending this to "Proposed New Topics"
It was meant as a Coffee House thread talking about something I read in the news, not as a dissertation. I changed the title. Why not promote it?
You think the NYTs is misreporting this as a major development in this field? If so, promote it and make that comment.

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Message 5 of 8 (321780)
06-15-2006 9:08 AM
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Re: Not "Coffee House" type material - Sending this to "Proposed New Topics"
Hi Randman!
We try to keep creation/evolution topics out of [forum=-14], and I think Adminnemooseus was just trying to figure out whether it belonged in the [forum=-35] forum or in one of the discussion forums. Did you see this as something you wanted to discuss (in which case [forum=-1] might be best), or just as something you wanted to bring to the attention of other people (in which case [forum=-35] might be best)?

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Message 6 of 8 (322466)
06-17-2006 12:42 AM
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06-13-2006 3:49 AM


Re: Not "Coffee House" type material - Sending this to "Proposed New Topics"
Adminnemooseus writes:
Needs some input from you. What was the controversy before this new information, and how does this new information change things.
I agree that there should be input from Randman here as to what his opinion is on this and something to stimulate discussion on the aspects of it that Randman wishes to address.
I also don't see it as a Coffee House item and would concur with Admin's choices of Forums. Perhaps Rand could choose one of those.
I won't be logged in again until later tomorrow. I've offer my 2 cents worth as requested in PNT.

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Message 7 of 8 (322701)
06-17-2006 7:01 PM
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Re: Not "Coffee House" type material - Sending this to "Proposed New Topics"
OK, let's go with the Bible accuracy forum. The problem with asking for more input is that I think the article contains sufficient info on it's own. Obviously, I believe the Bible is correct. The folks arguing that Edom was not an organized nation believe otherwise. That's the issue.
This is not an area I am fully informed on so I really cannot give a whole lot more details than that as I haven't studied the details of the positions prior to this discovery. I have been aware of them, but in my experience the critical positions in Bible history have often been advanced with very little substance to back it and franklly have been rather boring as a result (admittedly the other side has been advanced as well without a lot of scientific evidence for it but just based on the Bible).
But I do think it's worth discussion and that's what the forum is for, right?
Edited by randman, : No reason given.

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Message 8 of 8 (322719)
06-17-2006 8:16 PM


Thread copied to the evidence confirms biblical depiction of Edom thread in the The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy forum, this copy of the thread has been closed.

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