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Author Topic:   Women's Reactions to Rape
CK
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Message 2 of 235 (146284)
09-30-2004 7:51 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by crashfrog
09-30-2004 7:47 PM


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Why don't more women carry guns?
Because:
1) It's illegal in the UK
2) most rapes (like sexual abuse of children) are committed by people that women know and trust. Therefore in situations where a gun is not likely to be hand. In addition, the confusion of it being someone who is known and trusted to the women means that many are unable to process what is going on till it's too late. don't worry too much about the beast outside - worry about the one inside.
In addition, I *think* that the fast growing form of rape is via drugs, thus again a gun would be no use at all.
Sure there are perverts in bushing waiting to attack women but it's not as likely as the media would have you think*.
(In the same way that people in the UK have a massive fear of children being taken and murdered - the numbers have roughtly been the same for years but the awareness has raisen).
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 09-30-2004 06:54 PM

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CK
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Message 4 of 235 (146289)
09-30-2004 8:06 PM
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09-30-2004 8:00 PM


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At any rate, somehow your cops get by without guns, and I believe that its due to their intense hand-to-hand training.
Nothing at all to do with that (and I speak as someone who has worked with a number of the police forces in the UK), the vast majority of people just don't attempt to take the police on in combat.
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Do you think that, perhaps, that puts women at risk?
Rather than allowing people easy access to deadly weapons? - Americans struggle to understand this - we have no liking or interest in guns, we don't want them for any purpose (well expect the army and certain sections of the police).
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If most men were attacked by people they knew and trusted, who suddenly turned into werewolves, do you think that men would not be armed, even when with those they trusted?
What ? when you are in the bath? taking a shower? sleeping? when you are in bed with someone?

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CK
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Message 8 of 235 (146297)
09-30-2004 8:22 PM
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09-30-2004 8:20 PM


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What I struggle to understand is the mindset of someone who believes that the police will always be there to protect them.
me too - you know anyone like that?

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CK
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Message 12 of 235 (146303)
09-30-2004 8:31 PM
Reply to: Message 11 by crashfrog
09-30-2004 8:27 PM


how do you work that out? Just because we don't like guns doesn't mean that we don't believe in self-defense.
This is my last word on the matter - I've learnt from long internet experience that americans never get our views on guns and vis-versa.

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CK
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Message 32 of 235 (146422)
10-01-2004 4:38 AM
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10-01-2004 2:50 AM


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I know I'd go ballistic on some hairy queer who tried to bend me over.
Ah nothing like a topic like this to bring the bigots out - Male rape is even less about sex than female rape. I guess those queers have got to do something when they are not attacking children.
I'm always gobsmacked how many of those posters here can be so intelligent in some areas but total unaware in others.

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CK
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Message 47 of 235 (146495)
10-01-2004 1:43 PM
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10-01-2004 12:57 PM


sorry Rei - you know how it is - I was in the house (gun to hand) and a queer was trying to get in the window - I just hit the reply button in a panic.

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CK
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Message 76 of 235 (146697)
10-02-2004 4:49 AM
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10-02-2004 2:41 AM


There is one thing about those types of threads (those that involve guns and the like) - they start off quite sober, before long people are comparing which type of weapon is the best for slashing and the like.
I'm sorry America is a sick society.

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CK
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Message 80 of 235 (146746)
10-02-2004 1:38 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by crashfrog
10-02-2004 11:56 AM


please link to a post where I say self-defense is wrong.
Please link to a post where I claim that magical superheros will protect us.
Can you tell me the connection between self-defense and the discussion on a talkboard about the relative merits of which weapon will kill the quickest.

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