Your eternal destination: you decide.

They don't realize it, but when they get to heaven, there will be 72 virginians (not virgins) there waiting to kick their asses.Once again the lines between God and religion are blurred by people in this thread. Who ever thinks heaven will be filled with religious people, is probably mistaken, at least that's what the bible says.I can see from some responses that people are visioning heaven as hell, then choosing hell, because they feel it is better. But it is not about choosing once you die. Now is the time to choose, through every decision you make in life. I can't help but feel this is not the answer jar wants to give, but the answer he feels he should give.Whats the matter jar, your not forgiven? How can you not know, you don't remember everything you have done in your life? Well neither does Jesus. We are not perfect, and that's ok. Just as long as you are not knowingly evil, I would think, and hope that most of us here will be in heaven.My answer is heaven, and not by my own doing.

How can you say that with any authority? If God appeared right in front of you, you would have no way to prove it, but you would know that God exists.I used to ridicule people who "thought" they saw angels. I have changed my stance on that, because I have learned that just about anything is possible.By your statement you have judged a bunch of people.

Your saying the God that created you, wouldn't verify himself to you? I would hope He at least has that ability.I already feel He does, and has to me. I don't know why, or why it took so long, but it just is. I can not prove it to you, but it is proven to me. This does not mean I still do not need faith.This is why I think I am going to heaven, and why I think many people are.

truth, love.
He created you, I don't think you need to test it.

Like I said, you will just know, and you can't prove it to others.Do you need to test the fact that you see this forum? Of course not.
Can you prove to others that you see the forum, only if they can see it too.

Something I would expect to hear from someone who has not met God. There is no way to prove that.
You can't prove he believed it, or whether God spoke to him or not. You missed my point. I think therefor I am.

Not if you are the only one who can see it, that was my point that you missed.The other point that I made, that you keep missing, is that you cannot prove God to anyone, so stop asking me "how do you know God".This does not mean that God does not exist, and that He does not speak to people, or that people do not see angels.

My original statement was, you cannot verify it, if others cannot see it. Then you go on to explain how others can see it.Please, explain how you can verify that this forum exists, if others could not see it. How do you recognize truth?
How do you know love? Some things in life, do not need testing.
Do you need to test that you exist? I am not asking if you can.

There are billions of people that believe Jesus was the son of God.
The rest of the world also acknowldges His existance, but do not believe He was the son of God, but just a prophet.Yet there are still people in this forum who claim that He never even existed.I know many people who feel EXACTLY the same thing I feel from God. We even get parallel messages from God, at the same times.Regardless of all that, I do not need any verification to know God, what God has provided me with is enough. Some things go beyond science, and verification. Beyond a shadow of a doubt, is what the courts require.Jesus said it is your faith that gets you healed. How do you verify faith?Verification is only based on apon what is seen. What about the unseen?

Not crap jar, I know others can see it, that is why I presented to you differently than that, yet you keep going back to that.The point is, you do not need to verify anything, it is plainly obvious that when you look at this forum, you are indeed looking at this forum, unless you want to start getting into some kind of abstract conversation.Other people see and hear from God, but it is not neccessary for me to verify it with them. Everyone can llok at a cloud and see a different picture within, that doesn't mean that the cloud does not exist. Because demons are evil.
How do you know you are looking at this forum, and not some naked woman? Verification is in your heart, since God created it.
The testing lies in your journey with Him.
He exists, but it is up to you to choose whether you want to accept it or not, and if you do accept it, just how you see fit to accept it.You believe in God, that is some sort of verification right there. Even though your opinions differ from mine, that does not mean that god does not exist. For clarification, I always claim that I believe in God to others. I do not want to come across as a know it all. In my heart I believe I know God, would be more accurate. I say it that way, because God cannot be proven to others, except but to love them the way God loves me.It is within your right to accept what I am saying, or not accept it.Both me and God leave it up to you, I find that to be "Christ like". But there is always doubt. Nothing in science is ever proven. So I don't even know why we are having this conversation.You think because there is less doubt that you exist, or should I say more proof that you exist, than God exists, that somehow you exist more than God?I don't believe in odds, if there are odds are that it will happen, then one day it will happen. The percentage of validity has little to do with the possibilities, in reality. But for now it is the best tool we have in certain situations to acertain life. I find the lines between objectiveness and subjectiveness are blurred, and really eveything is sunbjective, because we view it through our subjective minds. Would you say that the truth has a feeling accociated with it?

That's evil. And still you cannot prove any of it. Not to others. That's not my job.
This does not mean that I do not know God, and that god has indeed verified Himself to me. That's where we part ways. I know God exists, or at least the illusion that some critter is posing as God to this earth.Nothing is 100% certain in life, so stop asking me to make it so.
But I verify God's existance on a daily basis, and He exists for me, just like this forum exists for you.I know God exists just like I know that I exist. None of it is provable. You can't even really prove that 2+2=4.For a long time it was not verifiable at all. But thanks to the Holy Spirit, and God's grace, my faith extends beyond just a simple belief.
I am not privy to this, anyone can experience it, that is my belief.

The opposite can also be said. But that is only further proof that God exists. I am not putting down anyones faith, or even trying to understand why they feel what they feel. But it is all evidence of supernatural stuff.I am also not relying on my own personal feelings. I have been through this numerous times before in this forum, and I have opened myself up for review. I am not a gullible person when it comes to spuernatural stuff, and for 38 years of my life, I did not believe any of it existed.But we are getting off topic, the topic is not whether or not God is provable, I never said He was. I don't need to discuss with others about my faith in God, but I know for myself that God exists. That doesn't make me anything more than you.This whole thread is based on the premise "if God exists" so it is pointless to discuss if The existance of God is provable.

Why not? We talk about it amoung each other all the time. We get the same "downloads" from God all the time. This is off topic anyway.We have had this conversation several times before, it is getting old. I know you don't accept it, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.When you say stuff like that to me, you give me the impression that you think I am some kind of floozy air-head who just believes whatever. Please....

EXACTLY? LOL
I never said EXACTLYIf you were paying attention, I was saying that nothing can ever be proven, so there is no such thing as exactly anyway.
What's that principal?No two people could ever see this forum the same way, but that doesn't mean it exists or not.I have already explained how there are 6 billion stories on the planet, so from that statement you should not have claimed that I was saying EXACTLY to anything. Another reading comprehension problem on your part. Yes, this is my universe, and I am the only one who exists in it, any questions? Just the opposite. I base what I feel on what I know, and never admit to knowing everything, therefor..... I guess I'll take that as a compliment, unless you think you are above humans or something.

I know what I said.
I said I know people who feel exactly the same thing I feel from God. This does not mean everything is the same, but certain things are EXACTLY the same. You turned it into EVERYTHING EXACTLY, when that was not what I meant, something you do all the time, twist words around, or just not understand what was meant. I never deny anythig, or lie.